barham red wrote:Defensively he's not the best, his tackligs attempts at times are just lazy arms hung out for players to brush aside, the Bradford try after his break shows this tendancy perfectly.
Well all the times I have seen him I've never had an issue with his defence. IMO Lovegrove is the weakest defender out of all the props.
GraftonRed wrote:So this forced drop out cost Hull FC 46 points did it, and stopped them scoring a single point? So your effectively saying Craig Hall cost you the game.......
Please point out where I even suggest this cost us the game? Thought not. If a player is upset by seeing his coach display his frustration at him not being able to pick up the ball with no one closer than 30 metres to him then he's not got the mentality to play SL IMO.
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Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
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Matty_HullFC wrote:Please point out where I even suggest this cost us the game? Thought not. If a player is upset by seeing his coach display his frustration at him not being able to pick up the ball with no one closer than 30 metres to him then he's not got the mentality to play SL IMO.
Aren't you supposed to be showing me where I said Craig Hall cost us the game?
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
Joined: Jun 17 2009 Posts: 1839 Location: West Hull, (enemy territory)
Matty_HullFC wrote: Aren't you supposed to be showing me where I said Craig Hall cost us the game?
No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.
If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...
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raynor the crab wrote:I would be disappointed to see Wheeldon go. As GML said, he had a great season last year and when called upon this year has been solid and reliable. I thought he was very good against Bradford and showed good pace for a prop when he made that break. I don't know why people say he's lightweight as he is at least 16 stone and hits as hard as any in SL.
I agree I'd like him to stay but I gather he's on quite a bit of money for a squad player we may have paid over the odds to get him in the first place, so I can't see him taking a pay cut to stay when he may have fielded better offers already.
GraftonRed wrote:No. If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...
Where have I hung the kid out to try? I just stated that the coach being dismayed by his error was totally understandable. There's a little bit of difference in my mind between dropping a decent high bomb to not being able to pick up a drop out with no pressure. Tansey is probably afforded more leniency due to his positive contributions being much greater than that of Craig Hall.
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
Joined: Jun 11 2007 Posts: 12260 Location: south of Hull.
GraftonRed wrote: the fans at the KC destroyed Thorman
Watching him play nearly destroyed me. As for Hall,Rovers fans could be right,Morgan may turn him into a tackling machine,who knows. Nothing against him personaly,but in my case, I would not be bothered if he stayed or went to be tuthful.
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GraftonRed wrote:No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.
If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...
It'd be a good idea to actually read posts correctly.
All the other posted said was that Agar understandably looked annoyed after that error. It was a shocking error and one that shouldn't be made by a professional. He's not blamed Hall for the loss atall.
Why are you mentioning Tansey? I'm sure Agar wasn't too impressed with that error either and you'll find plenty of Hull supporters criticising Tansey's ability (or lack of) under the high ball.
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