Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Mild Rover wrote: We provide a stage, but we get an actor (does that metaphor work?).
Yes, yes it does. If your first language is Mandarin (used to love them out of a tin for a pudding at Sunday tea with a bit of Tip Top on. Smashing.) and you've never spoken English.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
pmh wrote:Yes, yes it does. If your first language is Mandarin (used to love them out of a tin for a pudding at Sunday tea with a bit of Tip Top on. Smashing.) and you've never spoken English.
[fit of pique]First my ingenious French punning is ignored and now my metaphor is mocked.[/fit of pique]
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
sandy wrote:the disappointing thing for me in all this is that we have brought in a highly rated young lad who we will have no chance of signing on a full time contract even if he proves to be a world beater, I know needs must at the moment and as I said earlier our reserve backs are really u18's and not ready but I can't help thinking we're doing Wigan a massive favour giving this kid a go rather than them take the chance on him.
Charnley still qualifies at U18 level.
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Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Mild Rover wrote::P
[fit of pique]First my ingenious French punning is ignored and now my metaphor is mocked.[/fit of pique]
Whooshed right over my head that one I'm afraid chief.
And anyway, you were openly advising posters to ignore me yesterday (good advice tbf, most people I know employ that method of "relationship" with me) so I reserve the right to ignore your French punnery.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Gordon Gekko wrote:Probably because he wasn't ready for a full season as no.1 back up hooker, something he would undoubtedly admit himself. Hardly the same a loaning a player from another club for a month giving HIM and HIS club valuable development time at one of your own players expense. Hodgson is a decent prospect and he is ROVERS player therefore ROVERS get all the benefit of his development.
If Spaven and Mariano are no good why have Rovers not released them to allow them to develop their careers elsewhere or is it a case of needing them for window dressing and to boost the results of the U-20's???
Also i don't 'think' he was expecting to offload Fisher.....i 'know' he was.
Its not a case of either being 'no good', it's more that perhaps they haven't taken the opportunity to step up that a contract and regular training with the first team has given them. Maybe the forced rules regarding homegrown players as you suggest, mean that some will be given contracts when otherwise they might have missed out.
I stand by my original point though that it's terribly naive of those who say 'we should just play Mariano'. Especially when you take into consideration the next two fixtures.
The likes of Welham, Watts, Latus & Taylor prove that Morgan will give youngsters a chance if he thinks they're good enough. If he opts to bring in a loan player ahead of Mariano, I think it's a good indication that he doesn't believe the player is up to the level required.
It's not 'poor' of him at all. Poor would be to drop a player in at the deep end, have him absolutely annihilated for 80 minutes and cost us the game. All the time knowing he wasn't good enough in the first place.
Joined: Apr 06 2006 Posts: 1103 Location: The Heart of East Hull
Rogues Gallery wrote:Charnley still qualifies at U18 level.
I'm sure he does but I'm lead to believe this lad is quite a solid unit, the lads playing centre for our u20's still look like boys imho and are nowhere near superleague yet
Joined: Sep 01 2006 Posts: 5139 Location: Wall Street
Kingmaker wrote:Its not a case of either being 'no good', it's more that perhaps they haven't taken the opportunity to step up that a contract and regular training with the first team has given them. Maybe the forced rules regarding homegrown players as you suggest, mean that some will be given contracts when otherwise they might have missed out.
I stand by my original point though that it's terribly naive of those who say 'we should just play Mariano'. Especially when you take into consideration the next two fixtures.
The likes of Welham, Watts, Latus & Taylor prove that Morgan will give youngsters a chance if he thinks they're good enough. If he opts to bring in a loan player ahead of Mariano, I think it's a good indication that he doesn't believe the player is up to the level required.
It's not 'poor' of him at all. Poor would be to drop a player in at the deep end, have him absolutely annihilated for 80 minutes and cost us the game. All the time knowing he wasn't good enough in the first place.
I stand by my point also.
There is no point having a first team squad if you don't use it.
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Mrs Barista wrote:I wasn't ignoring it, I just didn't get it. I did French A level, and got an A grade, but that was a very long time ago.
s'awright.
Everybody wrote: Charnley.
Done pretty well (posted at HT). Looks to have lots potential - albeit for Wigan.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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