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 Post subject: Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:18 pm 
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EAGLEBLADE II wrote:The last two lines by Tim sum it up perfectly and now there is no relegation they are resting on there laurels even more,Have the RFL got the balls to demote from the super league,time will tell,but i think they'll expand rather than demote and leave the poor just to plod along,while certain teams deserving of a spot languishing with the deadmen.


One will go I'm sure, and I think they'll lose a 2nd one just to prove a point. Widnes at least should be given a shot.

Unfortunately the gap between SL and CC is too big to allow automatic P+R with no safety net. Football may have P+R but the relegated clubs get a huge parachute payment which IMO is grossly unfair on the other teams in the Championship. However without it they couldn't sustain P+R to the Premier League.






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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:31 pm 
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EAGLEBLADE II wrote:Bring back promotion and relegation and let results speak for themselves and let them decide who is deserving of their place in super league.If you finish top of the championship you DESERVE to be promoted if you finish bottom You should be RELEGATED.The loss of this has made the sport stale and boring.IMO


What if the bottom club in Superleague is better than the top club in the Championship? How can you say they deserve to be relegated and promoted respectively ?






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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:13 am 
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Promotion surely is about reward for being the best in your division and opportunity to see if you can go a bit further and improve even more.

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Even at amateur level P+R isn't all determined on the field. Leagues are often adjusted, teams can be promoted/relegated multiple divisions or not promoted at all if new teams are accepted at higher levels.

For example, Stanley Rangers await the NCL AGM next week to see if they are going up or staying down.

In an ideal world, annual P+R (rather than tri-annual which is the current situation) would exist and there would be a smooth continuum betwen divisions. This isn't the case in rugby league and the only way to make it happen would be to drag all teams to a lowest common denominator by giving some clubs extra money and other, better run clubs, less money.

Some SL clubs already don't like the Salary Cap because up to a point it does just that.






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Franchising is unfair bull***t. Easy as that. It's ruined the game at National League level and it's only getting worse.






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Airborne Eagle wrote:Promotion surely is about reward for being the best in your division and opportunity to see if you can go a bit further and improve even more.


Surely not. It should be about improving the quality of the higher division.






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Dr Badvibes wrote:Franchising is unfair bull***t. Easy as that. It's ruined the game at National League level and it's only getting worse.


It's coming to the Championship very soon.






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griff1998 wrote:Surely not. It should be about improving the quality of the higher division.


So success shouldn't be rewarded?

It worked in most sports for the last 100 years.

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griff1998 wrote:It's coming to the Championship very soon.


If it does I will stop watching the sport at this level no matter what division the Eagles are in.

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Dr Badvibes wrote:Franchising is unfair bull***t. Easy as that. It's ruined the game at National League level and it's only getting worse.


Are crowds really a lot lower than when the relegatd club used to go straight back up?

If the Eagles won CC and got promoted right now, would we really be able to assemble a brand new squad between October and January that would be able to compete in SL?






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