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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:23 am 
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A bit of good news about signings, and only rumours, and zod pops out!

Haven't heard much of him this season.






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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:17 am 
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General Zod. wrote:The HDM are correct and here's why.

Overseas players who have a European passport are not counted against the quota of the club they signed for provided they signed before Feb 2008, i.e. Fisher (UK), Vella (Malta), Galea (Malta), Newton (UK).

However, if the above players signed for other clubs then they would be counted against their new club's quota as they would have signed after Feb 2008 (obviously).

The idea of this is to smooth the transition of players as the homegrown quota increases.

There's more info regarding this in an article by Ian Lenegan somewhere. if you ask the Pies where it is I'm sure they'll provide you a link.

Finch and Lima will be Robins next year...


Good to see you back :lol:

According to a post by Mild Rover on a thread that took me a while to find :(

The players would have to be signed by June 2007?

Where Newton and Galea signed before that date?

Here is the artical posted by MR.

RFL "RELAX" RESTRICTIONS ON EXISTING OVERSEAS PLAYERS:

The RFL has now announced that clubs will be able to renew or extend the contracts of non-federation players who were signed before the rule was changed in June 2007.

Those players can be retained on top of the non-federation players that clubs are allowed, though the new dispensation will expire if players switch clubs or at the end of any contract extension.

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SUPER LEAGUE CLUBS AGREE EXTENSION:

Tuesday 21st October 08

After consultation with engage Super League clubs at this week’s end of season meeting, the RFL board has approved an extension to a recent exemption to the club trained rules.

At the meeting held in Harrogate, engage Super League clubs unanimously agreed that the club trained rules should remain and that a number of players registered in the competition prior to the adoption of the club trained rules should count as federation trained players.

Clubs also agreed that any legal case brought against the RFL for introducing such rules should be defended vigorously.

Rod Findlay, the RFL’s in-house lawyer said: “The club trained rules were introduced at the start of the year to increase the number of home produced players in the top flight. Clubs are fully behind these rules and reaffirmed their support this week.

“What this extension does is accommodate those players who have made a career in the game before they were aware of the possibility of club trained rules. Long term once the people qualify for the current exemption retire the club trained rules will do what they were designed to do and that is bring through more home grown talent.”

To take advantage of the extension of the exemption a player must apply to the RFL to be ‘federation trained’ at the end of their current contract. They also must have registered with the RFL prior to 1 February 2008, the date when the club trained rules were introduced.

Their status as a federation trained will then apply throughout their career, even if they move clubs in the future

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:45 am 
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General Zod. wrote:The HDM are correct and here's why.

Overseas players who have a European passport are not counted against the quota of the club they signed for provided they signed before Feb 2008, i.e. Fisher (UK), Vella (Malta), Galea (Malta), Newton (UK).

However, if the above players signed for other clubs then they would be counted against their new club's quota as they would have signed after Feb 2008 (obviously).

The idea of this is to smooth the transition of players as the homegrown quota increases.

There's more info regarding this in an article by Ian Lenegan somewhere. if you ask the Pies where it is I'm sure they'll provide you a link.

Finch and Lima will be Robins next year...


:lol: :lol: Priceless....Zoddy returns to tell us Finch & Lima will be robins next year.






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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:14 am 
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General Zod. wrote:The HDM are correct and here's why.

Overseas players who have a European passport are not counted against the quota of the club they signed for provided they signed before Feb 2008, i.e. Fisher (UK), Vella (Malta), Galea (Malta), Newton (UK).

However, if the above players signed for other clubs then they would be counted against their new club's quota as they would have signed after Feb 2008 (obviously).

Incorrect.

It's the date of registration with the RFL (prior to Feb 01 2008) that counts and not the date of signing for any particular club; and the exemption, once granted, applies for the remainder of the player's career regardless of who they may sign for.






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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:22 am 
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Kosh wrote:Incorrect.

It's the date of registration with the RFL (prior to Feb 01 2008) that counts and not the date of signing for any particular club; and the exemption, once granted, applies for the remainder of the player's career regardless of who they may sign for.



So in essence, clubs who have managed to keep their imports for more than a season or two are in the driving seat.






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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:04 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Good to see you back :lol:

According to a post by Mild Rover on a thread that took me a while to find :(

The players would have to be signed by June 2007?

Where Newton and Galea signed before that date?

Here is the artical posted by MR.

RFL "RELAX" RESTRICTIONS ON EXISTING OVERSEAS PLAYERS:

The RFL has now announced that clubs will be able to renew or extend the contracts of non-federation players who were signed before the rule was changed in June 2007.

Those players can be retained on top of the non-federation players that clubs are allowed, though the new dispensation will expire if players switch clubs or at the end of any contract extension.

***

SUPER LEAGUE CLUBS AGREE EXTENSION:

Tuesday 21st October 08

After consultation with engage Super League clubs at this week’s end of season meeting, the RFL board has approved an extension to a recent exemption to the club trained rules.

At the meeting held in Harrogate, engage Super League clubs unanimously agreed that the club trained rules should remain and that a number of players registered in the competition prior to the adoption of the club trained rules should count as federation trained players.

Clubs also agreed that any legal case brought against the RFL for introducing such rules should be defended vigorously.

Rod Findlay, the RFL’s in-house lawyer said: “The club trained rules were introduced at the start of the year to increase the number of home produced players in the top flight. Clubs are fully behind these rules and reaffirmed their support this week.

“What this extension does is accommodate those players who have made a career in the game before they were aware of the possibility of club trained rules. Long term once the people qualify for the current exemption retire the club trained rules will do what they were designed to do and that is bring through more home grown talent.”

To take advantage of the extension of the exemption a player must apply to the RFL to be ‘federation trained’ at the end of their current contract. They also must have registered with the RFL prior to 1 February 2008, the date when the club trained rules were introduced.

Their status as a federation trained will then apply throughout their career, even if they move clubs in the future
Have you closely read what you have posted as there are 2 active dates on there those being June 2007 and 1 February 2008.
Only 1 of those dates is included in a direct quote from the rfl in the piece you have posted that is the date of the 1 Feb 08.
It still reads as I said it did in 08 when I first mentioned it to choruses of me talking horse sh**e.
Any player who was at a club pre feb 08 can be fed trained if he so wishes.
They can even change clubs afterward and keep the fed trained status belive it or not.






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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:07 pm 
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Sheldon wrote:A bit of good news about signings, and only rumours, and zod pops out!

Haven't heard much of him this season.

That's cos I've been an exceptionally busy chap 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:08 pm 
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Kosh wrote:Incorrect.

It's the date of registration with the RFL (prior to Feb 01 2008) that counts and not the date of signing for any particular club; and the exemption, once granted, applies for the remainder of the player's career regardless of who they may sign for.

I stand corrected.

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 Post subject: Re: Jake Webster
PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:24 pm 
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General Zod. wrote:That's cos I've been an exceptionally busy chap 8)


carefully scrutinising the quota rules and reporting your findings to a desperate Morgan and Hudgell?

Or just crying into your cornflakes? :wink:






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
Regards,
 
Matthew

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