Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25930 Location: Back in Hull.
Kingmaker wrote:I agree, although its a fact the club's priority is both signing and developing young home grown players. The youth setup is exceeding expectations, but it is still in its infancy and might be a year or two before it can be relied on to produce decent numbers for the first team squad.
If (and massive if) the HDM story is correct, then is clearly isnt a fact.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Dave K. wrote: Altoght Newton and Galea can come off the Quota (which is a waste of time now), they would still count as 5 non Fed trained players right?
You can only get exemption if you signed before September 2007?
It was changed to registered with the RFL by Feb 2008. So Galea and Newton would be off quota (passports) and fed-trained (here for 2008). This makes Galea a much more attractive prospect for Rovers - and other clubs too.
Dave K. wrote:Even if tehy can you would have to hope that the didnt take advantage of this as they would have 10 overseas players in the squad next season.
Not good for the game if it happens.
It is the RFL's job to do what is right for the sport, HKR have to do what is best for HKR. I very much see your point, but, in mitigation, with the club-trained quota rising and with us not having veteran club-trained players of the stature of Radford, Yeaman and R. Horne, we do have to carry alot of youngsters in the 25 man squad. The market in fed-trained players is getting very competitive, as antipodeans can't be replaced so easily with other antipodeans. So, perversely, if you are fortunate enough to find a quota spot available, looking to Oz is more attractive than ever. Except for the exchange rate...
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Dave K. wrote:If (and massive if) the HDM story is correct, then is clearly isnt a fact.
You can't just throw money at a youth system and expect it to yield instant results though. Four years into SL to have half our squad developed in our academy was never going to happen.
Our strongest youth players are all at U18 level and below, which is currently too young to expect reasonable numbers to form part of the first team squad.
If you want my opinion, I'd try to sign a good English prop and off half, but who's available that every other SL club won't be interested in?
Joined: Mar 22 2009 Posts: 2397 Location: East Hull
Kingmaker wrote:You can't just throw money at a youth system and expect it to yield instant results though. Four years into SL to have half our squad developed in our academy was never going to happen.
Our strongest youth players are all at U18 level and below, which is currently too young to expect reasonable numbers to form part of the first team squad.
If you want my opinion, I'd try to sign a good English prop and off half, but who's available that every other SL club won't be interested in?
There isnt any that more attractive teams wouldnt go for, so if weve got the room; to look for a prop and a 6 in Oz and introduced players like Peterson and Bell into Full time training to gain a years experience imo is the best way forward for Rovers as a club.
[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25930 Location: Back in Hull.
Kingmaker wrote:You can't just throw money at a youth system and expect it to yield instant results though. Four years into SL to have half our squad developed in our academy was never going to happen.
Our strongest youth players are all at U18 level and below, which is currently too young to expect reasonable numbers to form part of the first team squad.
If you want my opinion, I'd try to sign a good English prop and off half, but who's available that every other SL club won't be interested in?
Props you would have a chance, off half much harder I must agree, but Rovers could release Galea or Fisher (both positions can be replaced easy in the british game) to sign an overseas stand off.
Joined: Mar 22 2009 Posts: 2397 Location: East Hull
Dave K. wrote:Props you would have a chance, off half much harder I must agree, but Rovers could release Galea or Fisher (both positions can be replaced easy in the british game) to sign an overseas stand off.
So you reckon we could EASYLY replace Galea with someone in the British game, can you confirm who you have in mind then because im stumped - A dream team player of 2009 with a vast ammount of experience isnt going to be easy to replace at all.
[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
very red robin wrote:So you reckon we could EASYLY replace Galea with someone in the British game, can you confirm who you have in mind then because im stumped - A dream team player of 2009 with a vast ammount of experience isnt going to be easy to replace at all.
Further to that, Fisher has a contract for 2011. The rumour is (or was) that Morgan would be happy to let Fisher go - although I think a lot of stuff is blown up out of all proportion.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Overseas players who have a European passport are not counted against the quota of the club they signed for provided they signed before Feb 2008, i.e. Fisher (UK), Vella (Malta), Galea (Malta), Newton (UK).
However, if the above players signed for other clubs then they would be counted against their new club's quota as they would have signed after Feb 2008 (obviously).
The idea of this is to smooth the transition of players as the homegrown quota increases.
There's more info regarding this in an article by Ian Lenegan somewhere. if you ask the Pies where it is I'm sure they'll provide you a link.
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