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Wanderer wrote:The Germans and the Argentinians have impressed me most of those to have played so far. Without a significant improvement you wouldn't see us troubling either of those and there are at least three more fancied sides still to play (Brazil, Holland, Spain).
Agreed...the Germans looked great against a mediocre Aussie side that nevertheless would probably have troubled us. We look like a rabble in comparison.
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I think this performance is what the cup needed. I felt that so far, the games have had too much 'feeling out', where the teams are too scared to go for it and spend the majority of the game probing. Germany came out with one intention tonight and that was to win. Look at the difference between them and England, they scored but carried on with the high tempo, carried on carving out the chances and the game was over after the second. Compare that to England, we scored instantly, then we kinda done nothing, we didn't push on, but we didn't exactly sure ourselves up at the back, we just fell asleep and you can't do that at this level.
Loved watching Ozil, that's another thing that's noticeable about the German side; other than Ballack, how many 'superstars' do they have? Most of their players play in their own league(I'd be surprised if any of the outfield players play outside of Germany), so they generally arrive as a bit of an unknown quantity without the global expectation of a side like Portugal or Spain, where their players play across the big leagues and expectation seems a lot higher. Obviously, those who watch the bundesliga know that the league is of a high quality, I certainly do, so today's game was of no surprise to me, the only surprise was how well Khedira done filling in for Ballack. I've always thought he was good, but Ballack's boots are huge for Germany, it remains to be seen if he can slug it out in the games where they won't have it so easy.
Mistah Lee™ wrote:Doesn't have to be entertaining. They were ruthless and got the job done. That's all that matters. More than what England did.
Can't believe it only finished 4-0 thought, should have been at least 8.
Personally I found their quick interplay and smart movement quite entertaining to watch, and very effective combined with their ruthlessness - but I guess posting that wouldn't live up to the stereotype.
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Ballack being injured is a bonus for the Germans....he's one idle bitch. I have said that since he has tossed it off with Chelsea, Chelsea (and Germany) would not drop a bollock by dropping a Ballak.
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Asim wrote:Personally I found their quick interplay and smart movement quite entertaining to watch, and very effective combined with their ruthlessness - but I guess posting that wouldn't live up to the stereotype.
You are right....they were very entertaining.....and I hate the Germans.
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Asim wrote:Personally I found their quick interplay and smart movement quite entertaining to watch, and very effective combined with their ruthlessness - but I guess posting that wouldn't live up to the stereotype.
Same here. Their direct play, sharp running and high tempo was a breath of fresh air compared to most of the stuff at this tournament. I enjoy international football, but too many sides play the slower, 'tactical' game, which I find boring most of the time.
Germany's problem will come when they come up against a side who play in the same way, I remember Holland getting jizzed over at the Euro's in 2008 after blitzing Italy on the counter, but as soon as they came up against a counter-attacking side themselves, they were found out and Russia made it look easy IMO. There are better sides out there than the Germans, whilst I think they'd have too much pace for a side like Argentina or Italy, Brazil would eat them alive IMO.
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