I received a threat the other day after promising to take the Serbia flag to the pub. I can't wait.

Berthold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

España! España!

Take your flag and parade it.

wenger talking about england ''we will need goals from them (gerrard and lampard)''

Nothing untoward there. A few on this thread proudly support a country other than their own so Wenger is no different. He's probably embarrassed France are there. I've heard they are training in private as they have been getting too much abuse from fans and media, probably a load of bulltosh but it wouldn't surprise me.

I may be barking up the wrong tree, but isn't Wenger an Alsatian. If so he might not really have a great passion for the national team, like a lot of people in similar places such as Merseyside, Catalonia, or the Independent Republic of Mancunia.

Also, that bet that Paddy Evra's got on can be done as a dual forecast multiple on Betfair as well, although I'd imagine the odds won't be quite as good.

Strange isn't it

Im only a USA fan for the sweepstake you will understand

I obviously want Ingerland to win

Chile as a very good dark-horse tip for my money at 70/1.

Best young side in South America (only 2 players in the squad over 30), 2nd place in the SAm qualifiers, one of the best young (and largely unheralded so far) talents in world football ready to announce himself to a wider audience, an experienced coach who banished the old heads/bad lads in the squad for the young uns after they messed about too much, a relatively easy group (other than Spain who they play last anyway when both should be through), very attack-minded side who score plenty of goals...

Knowing me they'll get dumped out in the group stages now...

Top goalscorer wise...Milito of Argentina has to be decent value at 28/1 and as a dark horse Podolski at 50/1 should be considered.