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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:03 am 
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Mild Rover wrote:Technically true, but do you think this rule is enforced or even enforceable?

I'm slightly surprised it is even legal. My contract runs out end of next Feb. I don't find out if it'll be renewed until late in Oct. I'd be outraged if I wasn't allowed to explore alternatives.

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Holdsworth would be decent enough from looking at opinions on here. Not sure it'd be the best possible use of a valuable quota spot, though.


Yeah but being tapped up by Burger King to make Whoppers instead of big macs is hardly a fair comparison :lol:






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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
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Big Dave T wrote:It's not illegal if the club allow it.


Considering Salford are trying everything to keep him I hardly think that they have given anyone permission to speak to him, do you?

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
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The best plan is stick with Dobbo, bring a six that can compliment his style rather than duplicate it. If we have to lose one of our overseas players he would have to be fed trained, if not we lose two, which would un-balance the team too much.






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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:49 am 
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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:Considering Salford are trying everything to keep him I hardly think that they have given anyone permission to speak to him, do you?


Most clubs allow their players the chance to speak to other clubs to see their true market worth. Otherwise the player just refuses to talk to them until after the date they can speak to other clubs as it's unfair asking a player to sign a deal without seeing what theyre worth.

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Big Dave T wrote:Most clubs allow their players the chance to speak to other clubs to see their true market worth. Otherwise the player just refuses to talk to them until after the date they can speak to other clubs as it's unfair asking a player to sign a deal without seeing what theyre worth.


We did it with King a few years ago. I think most SL clubs realise that it happens and there's not much they can do to stop it

I personally can't see Salford allowing him to speak to other clubs though especially considering how McRae spat his dummy out last year other Turner and Myler






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Willa wrote:We did it with King a few years ago. I think most SL clubs realise that it happens and there's not much they can do to stop it

I personally can't see Salford allowing him to speak to other clubs though especially considering how McRae spat his dummy out last year other Turner and Myler


We've done it with players like Manu this year. Pointless blocking any player talking to other clubs. It happens irrespective of whether its blocked and most clubs would prefer it to happen and they know about it rather than forcing it underground. At least clubs can counter the other sides bids if they know about them.

Far more pro's than con's for allowing players to speak to other clubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
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Big Dave T wrote:We've done it with players like Manu this year. Pointless blocking any player talking to other clubs. It happens irrespective of whether its blocked and most clubs would prefer it to happen and they know about it rather than forcing it underground. At least clubs can counter the other sides bids if they know about them.

Far more pro's than con's for allowing players to speak to other clubs.


Exactly, and as a club you're hardly going to endear yourselves to the player by purposely limiting his options.

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
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reddan wrote:Exactly, and as a club you're hardly going to endear yourselves to the player by purposely limiting his options.


Yup.

So the situation here is that Salford have allowed Holdsworth to see what his worth is. Rovers are a club speaking to him and Holdsworth will then be able to review the offer from Rovers vs Salford and other clubs interested. If Dobson and Galea go and with Cooke going i'd imagine Rovers will be able to make a fairly competetive offer. (both financially and attractiveness of Rovers as a franchise club etc)

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Holdsworth
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Big Dave T wrote:Yup.

So the situation here is that Salford have allowed Holdsworth to see what his worth is. Rovers are a club speaking to him and Holdsworth will then be able to review the offer from Rovers vs Salford and other clubs interested. If Dobson and Galea go and with Cooke going i'd imagine Rovers will be able to make a fairly competetive offer. (both financially and attractiveness of Rovers as a franchise club etc)


The thing is, we're also (officially I think) in talks with Galea and rumoured to be with Webster too. Even assuming that Dobson did want to go back to the NRL for 2011, which he has (only slightly ambiguously) denied that is too many quota players. Perhaps we're operating as bidders in a Dutch auction.
Then there are the Finch rumours. All sound very 'fluid' to me.






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Mild Rover wrote: All sound very 'fluid' to me.


Most talks are very fluid at this point in the season. I'm surprised the Holdsworth talks have even become public knowledge and hundreds of cross-club talks go on at this stage of the season that never see the light of day.

The strong rumour earlier in the year was Galea to Hudds was a done deal. The rumour from within Rovers was that Webster was going home. I'll believe it all when it's announced officially.

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