Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:04 pm
Dave K.
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Rupert Pupkin wrote:Your right but they are some of the best we have available, it just shows how poor the rest that are below them in the pecking order are aswell!
On the Leeds thread I have suggested that the backs are:
Briscoe Bridge Pryce Hall
I dont really like putting Pryce at centre as he doesnt play there, but his form this season means he needs to be in and I would keep the Eastmond/Tomkins halfback pairing as it could be one for the nest few years.
No idea who to put at FB, Mathers or Lee Smith (again out of position, sort of).
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:14 pm
SirStan
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Dave K. wrote:Yeaman is having a good season, Horne too many injuries to judge, but has been hit and miss when he has played.
Both will improve the more Long plays.
Both Briscoe and Fox are average and it shows what poor options that we have when these two plus players like Shenton get picked got England.
Shenton is twice the player Yeaman has ever been. Briscoe hasn't even been as good as average most of this season, and Fox has not had the service since he was switched to the right wing.
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:17 pm
Rupert Pupkin
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Dave K. wrote:On the Leeds thread I have suggested that the backs are:
Briscoe Bridge Pryce Hall
I dont really like putting Pryce at centre as he doesnt play there, but his form this season means he needs to be in and I would keep the Eastmond/Tomkins halfback pairing as it could be one for the nest few years.
No idea who to put at FB, Mathers or Lee Smith (again out of position, sort of).
Forwards we are so strong.
I think out of the backs you have named, the only one certain starter I would pick in his correct position would be Hall.
I still have doubts over Briscoe, crazy enough as it seems but he has scored alot of walk in trys this season for you guys, someone is handing them on a plate to him
Bridge hasn't been able to hold down a regular spot in the centres and the team this season, I would possibly pick Atkins over him.
Has Pryce had enough chances at this level? the reason I say this is because I think the Eastmond/Tomkins partnership should continue too. I know you dont rate Shenton but I think he deserves another shot.
I agree with you on the full back situation, both not ideal but what choices do we have!!!!
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Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:54 pm
Dave K.
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Rupert Pupkin wrote:I think out of the backs you have named, the only one certain starter I would pick in his correct position would be Hall.
I still have doubts over Briscoe, crazy enough as it seems but he has scored alot of walk in trys this season for you guys, someone is handing them on a plate to him
Bridge hasn't been able to hold down a regular spot in the centres and the team this season, I would possibly pick Atkins over him.
Has Pryce had enough chances at this level? the reason I say this is because I think the Eastmond/Tomkins partnership should continue too. I know you dont rate Shenton but I think he deserves another shot.
I agree with you on the full back situation, both not ideal but what choices do we have!!!!
Kirk Yeaman givign him walk in trys
You forgot his trys v's you and saints.
He is strong going forward, good defence and getting better under the high ball, not perfect but again little other choice on the wing.
Bridge looks good when i watch him and thought he did well there in the last internationals, better than Atkins IMO, Shenton is very overated IMO, good defence, but doesnt seem to do a lot more, be interesting to see how he goes next season if he leaves Cas.
Pryce has been outstanding this year and should be included, but not in the halfback position, centre or FB maybe.
I think that 1-5 for england is up for grabs this year.
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:03 pm
Rupert Pupkin
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Dave K. wrote:Kirk Yeaman givign him walk in trys
You forgot his trys v's you and saints.
He is strong going forward, good defence and getting better under the high ball, not perfect but again little other choice on the wing.
Bridge looks good when i watch him and thought he did well there in the last internationals, better than Atkins IMO, Shenton is very overated IMO, good defence, but doesnt seem to do a lot more, be interesting to see how he goes next season if he leaves Cas.
Not sure its Yeaman, think its Tansey feeding him
Still scored alot of walk in trys for me, not knocking him for that but most wingers will have scored those trys.
I still think he has a problem under the high ball but alot of wingers struggle to deal with quality kicks and I still think his positioning from kicks could be improved.
It is interesting on who will sign Shenton, looks like all the big clubs have been linked with him and I'm not including your club, even though its been mentioned on your forum a few times
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Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:34 am
ksmithl3537
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does matter who we pick in the france game really give the young ine a run out , when we play the big guns(aus and the all black) we always fall short cos their faster and better with ball in hand, is these small games r ballocks!!!!
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:01 pm
SirStan
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ksmithl3537 wrote:does matter who we pick in the france game really give the young ine a run out , when we play the big guns(aus and the all black) we always fall short cos their faster and better with ball in hand, is these small games r ballocks!!!!
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:31 pm
Gordon Gekko
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ksmithl3537 wrote:does matter who we pick in the france game really give the young ine a run out , when we play the big guns(aus and the all black) we always fall short cos their faster and better with ball in hand, is these small games r ballocks!!!!
The best way of improving the standard of the English game at International level is to bring in a full-on State of Origin style competition, where the best of British play the best of British over a three match series like they do in Aussie.
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Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:38 pm
Ron Weasley
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Gordon Gekko wrote:The best way of improving the standard of the English game at International level is to bring in a full-on State of Origin style competition, where the best of British play the best of British over a three match series like they do in Aussie.
The county origin thing didn't prove popular over here though. How do you think it could be re-introduced and attract support?
Post subject: Re: Briscoe & Fox to miss Wire game?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:01 pm
Mild Rover
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reddan wrote:The county origin thing didn't prove popular over here though. How do you think it could be re-introduced and attract support?
Make the Magic Weekend:
Day 1. France vs Wales (or possibly 'Celtic Nations'). Yorks vs Lancs. (chosen from players not picked for England)
Day 2. Championship Yorks vs Lancs. England vs SL ANZACs.
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