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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:40 pm 
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1000% HULL FC wrote:Over £3 million in debt. Losing over £500,000 a year.

The bubble has burst.

You lived the dream. (A play off)

Now those chickens are coming home to roost. BIG TIME!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Things have a way of evening out . . so don't count your chickens either!!! 8)






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 Post subject: Re: Paper 'n' cracks
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:43 am 
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Justiniho has mentioned ££££ more than once.
If you cut your salary cap by c £200-400,000 in one off season with the prospect of a further cut to £1m a year then you will get disillusioned , which the players pick up on.
When KR spent £1.6m last year you came 4th and this year £1.25m ? you come 9th , next season £1m then 10/11th ?
You are a SMALL club that borrowed TOO MUCH to keep up with a BIG BIG club.






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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Justiniho has mentioned ££££ more than once.
If you cut your salary cap by c £200-400,000 in one off season with the prospect of a further cut to £1m a year then you will get disillusioned , which the players pick up on.
When KR spent £1.6m last year you came 4th and this year £1.25m ? you come 9th , next season £1m then 10/11th ?
You are a SMALL club that borrowed TOO MUCH to keep up with a BIG BIG club.


Which is this big big club you mention?

It can't be Hull because for the last few seasons we haven't kept up with them...We've left them trailing in our wake. :lol:






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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:02 am 
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Barnacle Bill wrote:Which is this big big club you mention?

It can't be Hull because for the last few seasons we haven't kept up with them...We've left them trailing in our wake. :lol:


how's that working out? :wink:






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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Sheldon wrote:how's that working out? :wink:


Apparently we're only spending £1.25 million on players this year so all things considered pretty well actually.






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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:07 am 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Justiniho has mentioned ££££ more than once.
If you cut your salary cap by c £200-400,000 in one off season with the prospect of a further cut to £1m a year then you will get disillusioned , which the players pick up on.
When KR spent £1.6m last year you came 4th and this year £1.25m ? you come 9th , next season £1m then 10/11th ?
You are a SMALL club that borrowed TOO MUCH to keep up with a BIG BIG club.


Not an implausible scenario. Properly presented, it could have been the basis for an interesting discussion. It's a shame when people choose trolling over credibility.

I'm trying out 'more sad than angry' today. :DAISY:






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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:53 am 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Justiniho has mentioned ££££ more than once.
If you cut your salary cap by c £200-400,000 in one off season with the prospect of a further cut to £1m a year then you will get disillusioned , which the players pick up on.
When KR spent £1.6m last year you came 4th and this year £1.25m ? you come 9th , next season £1m then 10/11th ?
You are a SMALL club that borrowed TOO MUCH to keep up with a BIG BIG club.


Rovers will be better off next season, though, as they won't be allegedly paying at least part of salaries of Cooke and Mills who don't play for Rovers, so should get more bang for their buck. I can see Hudgell trimming the wage bill, but not down to £1m - Rovers are "only" £450k off breaking even and with Luen on board, potentially he may be joining the other directors in bankrolling part of the losses in the short term.

If I were a Rovers fan, the concern for me wouldn't be the current run of performances as Morgan has proved what he can do with limited resources already and if you can get your defence sorted will comfortably make the 8. The concern IMO is attendances. I know the 2 are sort of linked, but the fact that your gates are down on a like fixture basis for all games bar the opener (with Olly Murs) and the derby (due to a kind of away fans boycott in 2009 :wink: ) must be a point worth discussing in the context of needing a 10k average to break even. If it's a general economic downturn related point, then things look set to get worse before they get better. Plus, from a cashflow perspective, income from supporters will be down this year vs last year due to the £60 Club Rovers charge not being repeated. Absolutely critical for Rovers to get their finger out on the merchandising front in readiness for 2011 IMO as there has to have been a big opportunity missed last year in terms of timing of shirt launch and poor Christmas ranges.

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Barnacle Bill wrote:Apparently we're only spending £1.25 million on players this year so all things considered pretty well actually.


I think you were over paying stan and macca






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Rovers will be better off next season, though, as they won't be allegedly paying at least part of salaries of Cooke and Mills who don't play for Rovers, so should get more bang for their buck. I can see Hudgell trimming the wage bill, but not down to £1m - Rovers are "only" £450k off breaking even and with Luen on board, potentially he may be joining the other directors in bankrolling part of the losses in the short term.

If I were a Rovers fan, the concern for me wouldn't be the current run of performances as Morgan has proved what he can do with limited resources already and if you can get your defence sorted will comfortably make the 8. The concern IMO is attendances. I know the 2 are sort of linked, but the fact that your gates are down on a like fixture basis for all games bar the opener (with Olly Murs) and the derby (due to a kind of away fans boycott in 2009 :wink: ) must be a point worth discussing in the context of needing a 10k average to break even. If it's a general economic downturn related point, then things look set to get worse before they get better. Plus, from a cashflow perspective, income from supporters will be down this year vs last year due to the £60 Club Rovers charge not being repeated. Absolutely critical for Rovers to get their finger out on the merchandising front in readiness for 2011 IMO as there has to have been a big opportunity missed last year in terms of timing of shirt launch and poor Christmas ranges.


The 10K break even figure would not apply if the wage costs were reduced, which for various reasons they could be significantly next year. Personally I would have not signed Joel Clinton this year with a view to getting the ship on an even keel.






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Barnacle Bill wrote:Apparently we're only spending £1.25 million on players this year so all things considered pretty well actually.

Next you'll be telling us that the average fan is happy getting hammered away from home as long as the club have cut the wage bill. :lol:






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