Dead Man Walking wrote:What will the Colts do when Manning retires though ?
Probably 2-14 or something, same with the Pats when Brady goes there's more chance of 5-11 unless both teams manage to find another HOFer in the draft.
Gaslight wrote:Probably 2-14 or something, same with the Pats when Brady goes there's more chance of 5-11 unless both teams manage to find another HOFer in the draft.
The Patriots and Colts will not find a Brady or Manning again I think in the draft.
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LFCRhino wrote:Sometimes coaches find themselves in situations where they just cant do any wrong with the players they have Jim Caldwell would be a good example of this at the moment thats why I dont think 33-31 is such a bad record with the players/teams he had IMO and if your judging coaches on won/lost records I think that there would be a few head coaches in the nfl that shouldnt be in a job!!!
Bill Belichick had a 36-44 record with the Browns so Im glad people who do the hiring dont go by bad W/L records!!
Wasn't really my point. Only that i don't see his appointment as that outstanding given he hasn't been excellent in the NFL. He's brilliant in the college game though.
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Dead Man Walking wrote:What will the Colts do when Manning retires though ?
Colts would still be a play-off team, assuming they have a relatively decent starter. They could do with picking up a youngster pretty early in the next draft or two to have ready behind Manning. I'm not sure how old he is but he must be in his mid 30's?
As for the Patriots without Brady. They will go 16-0. Belicheat will have to take out the digicam when Brady is gone.
The same talk of a demise was suggested when we knew we were getting rid of Favre, and he is/was a better QB than either Brady or Manning. As it is we've not really lost anything at all and already have an QB at elite level two years after him leaving.
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ST_CONROY wrote:Wasn't really my point. Only that i don't see his appointment as that outstanding given he hasn't been excellent in the NFL. He's brilliant in the college game though.
I know what you were getting at, but my point was that Bill Belichick(as an example) was hardly first choice for Head Coaching jobs and apart from the Jests I dont think anyone else was after him after his previous head coaching stint. He had to go back to doing co-ordinator jobs and did well whilst getting more experience, I think the same has happened with Carroll and whilst I realise the college game isnt as tough as the nfl coaching wise I think he has gotten a hell of a lot more experience and as a head coach too so it can only do him good.
Like I said earlier I think he was far better than his 33-31 record suggests and the experience he has gained since can go a long way to help him as an nfl HC.
LFCRhino wrote:I know what you were getting at, but my point was that Bill Belichick(as an example) was hardly first choice for Head Coaching jobs and apart from the Jests I dont think anyone else was after him after his previous head coaching stint. He had to go back to doing co-ordinator jobs and did well whilst getting more experience, I think the same has happened with Carroll and whilst I realise the college game isnt as tough as the nfl coaching wise I think he has gotten a hell of a lot more experience and as a head coach too so it can only do him good.
Like I said earlier I think he was far better than his 33-31 record suggests and the experience he has gained since can go a long way to help him as an nfl HC.
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