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Mrs Barista wrote::D Leopard and spots. I personally think he's misunderstood and should sue for bullying in the workplace. We all saw Newton shouting at him under the sticks at the Huddersfield game.
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From what I understand, Cooke has been told he wont get a new contract for next year because JM and the board thinks the money can be better spent elsewhere. There's been no fallouts, but Cooke has been told, if he can find another club, he's free to talk to them and move as long as the deal is amicable between the three parties.
The reason for his absence from the team is because JM isn't prepared to include him whilst he is in discussions with another club. However if any potential move falls through, he's happy to include Cooke back in his match squads.
Not much new info there, I know, but the alleged 'gagging order' is complete nonsense.
reddan wrote:From what I understand, Cooke has been told he wont get a new contract for next year because JM and the board thinks the money can be better spent elsewhere. There's been no fallouts, but Cooke has been told, if he can find another club, he's free to talk to them and move as long as the deal is amicable between the three parties.
The reason for his absence from the team is because JM isn't prepared to include him whilst he is in discussions with another club. However if any potential move falls through, he's happy to include Cooke back in his match squads.
Not much new info there, I know, but the alleged 'gagging order' is complete nonsense.
That contradicts Morgans 'we never instigated it' comments dont you think?
If you are not part of the solution then you are more likely part of the problem...
knocker norton wrote:That contradicts Morgans 'we never instigated it' comments dont you think?
No I don't. Cooke may have the club's permission to discuss a move, but the club certainly have not instigated any move by either contacting other clubs or removing him from the squad because they want rid.
reddan wrote:No I don't. Cooke may have the club's permission to discuss a move, but the club certainly have not instigated any move by either contacting other clubs or removing him from the squad because they want rid.
Like I say, from what I understand Rovers are quite happy to have Paul Cooke honour the remainder of his contract, but if he feels a move is in his best interests, they have allowed him to pursue any relevant interest in him.
I disagree. If you are saying Morgan has told Cooke he wont get a new contract and he is free to look elsewhere then the 'not instigated by us' comment is ridiculous. Of course it is instigated by Rovers they have told him he can look elsewhere (apparently).
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reddan wrote:From what I understand, Cooke has been told he wont get a new contract for next year because JM and the board thinks the money can be better spent elsewhere. There's been no fallouts, but Cooke has been told, if he can find another club, he's free to talk to them and move as long as the deal is amicable between the three parties.
The reason for his absence from the team is because JM isn't prepared to include him whilst he is in discussions with another club. However if any potential move falls through, he's happy to include Cooke back in his match squads.
Not much new info there, I know, but the alleged 'gagging order' is complete nonsense.
Why then was Morgan angry to the point of wordlessness in that interview? That was surely more than just been fed up of discussing it. There look to be issues to be resolved and I hope they are resolved swiftly, so the team and club can move forward.
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Mild Rover wrote:Why then was Morgan angry to the point of wordlessness in that interview? That was surely more than just been fed up of discussing it. There look to be issues to be resolved and I hope they are resolved swiftly, so the team and club can move forward.
knocker norton wrote:I disagree. If you are saying Morgan has told Cooke he wont get a new contract and he is free to look elsewhere then the 'not instigated by us' comment is ridiculous. Of course it is instigated by Rovers they have told him he can look elsewhere (apparently).
Fair enough, thats a perfectly justifiable argument. Perhaps JM doesn't want to lose Cooke for this season, but I guess morally if you tell a player he's unlikely to be given a new deal, you can't really deny them the opportunity to move earlier if the chance arises.
Maybe rightly or wrongly it was a little dig from JM because Cooke doesn't want to honour his contract, stick around and prove him wrong, but from what I know, he genuinely meant that at this time the club haven't actively tried to move Cooke on.
It's no secret they haven't always seen eye-to-eye, perhaps he's annoyed that Cooke looking for a move, thus making himself unavailable for selection at a time when we're not in the best of form etc etc is disrupting the club. Either way, the best case scenario is he moves on and both parties put it behind them and get on with the season.
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reddan wrote:Fair enough, thats a perfectly justifiable argument. Perhaps JM doesn't want to lose Cooke for this season, but I guess morally if you tell a player he's unlikely to be given a new deal, you can't really deny them the opportunity to move earlier if the chance arises.
Maybe rightly or wrongly it was a little dig from JM because Cooke doesn't want to honour his contract, stick around and prove him wrong, but from what I know, he genuinely meant that at this time the club haven't actively tried to move Cooke on.
It's no secret they haven't always seen eye-to-eye, perhaps he's annoyed that Cooke looking for a move, thus making himself unavailable for selection at a time when we're not in the best of form etc etc is disrupting the club. Either way, the best case scenario is he moves on and both parties put it behind them and get on with the season.
I know this all just opinions and speculation, so I'm not having a pop. Another thing that occurs to me though, is why would want would Cooke want a move now, if everything is hunkydory? Why be so keen to take an inevitable pay cut now, rather than waiting until the end of the year. He may not want a contract to run down, with the ever present threat of injury - but then a loan deal makes little sense. Perhaps, I'm wrong - with the overseas quota coming down and 14 SL teams competing for players, perhaps his stock has held up better than I assume.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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Mild Rover wrote:I know this all just opinions and speculation, so I'm not having a pop. Another thing that occurs to me though, is why would want would Cooke want a move now, if everything is hunkydory? Why be so keen to take an inevitable pay cut now, rather than waiting until the end of the year. He may not want a contract to run down, with the ever present threat of injury - but then a loan deal makes little sense. Perhaps, I'm wrong - with the overseas quota coming down and 14 SL teams competing for players, perhaps his stock has held up better than I assume.
Can't see it being inevitable that he takes a pay cut NOW. If he moves out from Rovers on loan who he is contracted to at x amount of pounds per year,that contract is still valid.His present salary will probably be met between both clubs. This could be the reason he doesn't seem all that concerned about it dragging on.weather he plays for Rovers ,Wakey or sits out the season on the bench,his contracted money has to be paid. If he goes on loan ,and negotiates a new contract for Wakey then yes a pay cut will be on the cards but not now.
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Mild Rover wrote:I know this all just opinions and speculation, so I'm not having a pop. Another thing that occurs to me though, is why would want would Cooke want a move now, if everything is hunkydory? Why be so keen to take an inevitable pay cut now, rather than waiting until the end of the year. He may not want a contract to run down, with the ever present threat of injury - but then a loan deal makes little sense. Perhaps, I'm wrong - with the overseas quota coming down and 14 SL teams competing for players, perhaps his stock has held up better than I assume.
He wont take a paycut. Not this year anyway. If he does move on loan, both clubs must reach an agreement to pay his current contracted salary between them. As far as next year is concerned, is it just a coincidence that Brough appears to be moving on at the same time they're looking to bring Cooke in? If Cooke was prepared to take more than a nominal paycut, he wouldn't need to look for another club.
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I personally think he's misunderstood and should sue for bullying in the workplace. We all saw Newton shouting at him under the sticks at the Huddersfield game. 
