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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:02 pm 
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Jaymc9 wrote:anyone see adamson having a pop at someone on the bulls bench when he was took off near the end of the game? who was it he was having a go at?


Would imagine it had something to do with this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 543623.stm
Jaymc9 wrote:anyone see adamson having a pop at someone on the bulls bench when he was took off near the end of the game? who was it he was having a go at?


Would imagine it had something to do with this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 543623.stm

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:50 pm 
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it doesn't help the situation when a younger member of our 1st team squad calling our head coach a wa##er in town on sat night.

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:11 pm 
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I thought I was seeing things when I saw that stamp!! No-one seemed to react at all?

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:43 pm 
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At the time when Shaun McRae was appointed most of the fans that I know(Big Pev apart) were all for him coming on board and I myself was unsure about what his impact would be on the team.

He certainly gets us publicity from his Sky appearances etc and whenever I ask him a question he always spends time giving an answer and he has on occasions put me right with his reply as he knows what should have gone on during the match whereas I can only summise what should have happened.

On the salary cap we must be the lowest in Superleague taking into account our crowds etc and he is having to work within a much lower budget than other clubs are.

With regards last Fridays performance although it was a much better one than the last home game against Crusaders some of the players must take responsibility for their performances and ultimately the result.

You cannot give away stupid penalties in key positions and hope to get a win against any Superleague team as we did on Friday night.

You cannot continually play with a poor kicking game, which we did on Friday night, and expect to win the match.

The performance against Bradford was an improvement but the penalties and the poor kicking game cost us dearly and this is down to the players.

Not changing our play, as we didn't do on Friday, at 7 nil down with 10/15 minutes left was either down to the coaching staff not seeing what was going on or the players not implementing what was required, or should have been told to do.

With regards the crowds there has been no "special offers" as far as I know, and I for one do not need any "special offer" to come and support the club and for the "fans" who have stopped coming if you really need something extra to give your support, how do you think that the people who have kept the club going are feeling at this time?what if they had decided to stop supporting the club?

If we cannot improve our support we are on a sticky wicket when the franchise test comes around and if we are unsuccessful will we have the people who are complaining now and refusing to attend games whinging even more?

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:45 pm 
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Jaymc9 wrote:it doesn't help the situation when a younger member of our 1st team squad calling our head coach a wa##er in town on sat night.


How do you know that and who was it?

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:18 pm 
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Original Salford City Red wrote:At the time when Shaun McRae was appointed most of the fans that I know(Big Pev apart) were all for him coming on board and I myself was unsure about what his impact would be on the team.

He certainly gets us publicity from his Sky appearances etc and whenever I ask him a question he always spends time giving an answer and he has on occasions put me right with his reply as he knows what should have gone on during the match whereas I can only summise what should have happened.

On the salary cap we must be the lowest in Superleague taking into account our crowds etc and he is having to work within a much lower budget than other clubs are.

With regards last Fridays performance although it was a much better one than the last home game against Crusaders some of the players must take responsibility for their performances and ultimately the result.

You cannot give away stupid penalties in key positions and hope to get a win against any Superleague team as we did on Friday night.

You cannot continually play with a poor kicking game, which we did on Friday night, and expect to win the match.

The performance against Bradford was an improvement but the penalties and the poor kicking game cost us dearly and this is down to the players.

Not changing our play, as we didn't do on Friday, at 7 nil down with 10/15 minutes left was either down to the coaching staff not seeing what was going on or the players not implementing what was required, or should have been told to do.

With regards the crowds there has been no "special offers" as far as I know, and I for one do not need any "special offer" to come and support the club and for the "fans" who have stopped coming if you really need something extra to give your support, how do you think that the people who have kept the club going are feeling at this time?what if they had decided to stop supporting the club?

If we cannot improve our support we are on a sticky wicket when the franchise test comes around and if we are unsuccessful will we have the people who are complaining now and refusing to attend games whinging even more?


Sadly, with the exception of the inclusion of Mr McRae's name and Crusaders this posting could have been made any time over the past 20 years - it's gone on and on like this for ever. I have been Home and Away for more than 40 years prior to this year FWIW so despite my decision to stop this season I still feel I have a vested interest in the club I love.
When you state "...and for the "fans" who have stopped coming if you really need something extra to give your support, how do you think that the people who have kept the club going are feeling at this time?what if they had decided to stop supporting the club?

That is my point my friend - many of them have! That is the worry and as has been said before; I still believe the Season Ticket changes this season were wrong in principle. It may have still only been a small financial increase but the creation of a 'family club' that to have any value one must join was a gaffe of hideous proprtions IMHO in the depths of a financial recession. As we all know the whole point of the Forum is to discuss opinions.

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:19 pm 
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Jaymc9 wrote:it doesn't help the situation when a younger member of our 1st team squad calling our head coach a wa##er in town on sat night.


Name names or stop stirring.

I call my boss a wa##er all the time, doesn't mean he's bad at his job (nor does it mean I have the God-given right to pass judgement on the quality of his work, particularly when he's far more experienced and knowledgable than me)






Dave Lister wrote:I reckon Salford's fans are the friendliest i've come across and haven't got a bad word to say about them



:CLAP: Love him or hate him, 163 consecutive appearances should make Stuart Littler a Salford legend in anyone's book :CLAP:

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:25 pm 
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nnn wrote:Finally, as I recall, Kear was out of a job before Wakefield appointed him, Noble went to Crusaders and Millward is at Leigh (not Melbourne Storm). All of which suggest there are good coaches out there and that Salford have missed good opportunities.


Don't remember anyone saying Noble was a good coach when he was in charge of GB?

McRae's record is arguably as good as Millward's and only one of them managed to get a job in the NRL.

I'm not McRae's biggest fan but I reckon you're even more full of it than he is?!






Dave Lister wrote:I reckon Salford's fans are the friendliest i've come across and haven't got a bad word to say about them



:CLAP: Love him or hate him, 163 consecutive appearances should make Stuart Littler a Salford legend in anyone's book :CLAP:

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:26 pm 
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SteveRed wrote:I have stated often enough that I refused to pay any more this season


No, not at all, please state it more often.

It gets more interesting to read every time. :SLEEPY:






Dave Lister wrote:I reckon Salford's fans are the friendliest i've come across and haven't got a bad word to say about them



:CLAP: Love him or hate him, 163 consecutive appearances should make Stuart Littler a Salford legend in anyone's book :CLAP:

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 Post subject: Re: mcrae
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:27 am 
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For me mcrae still has a lot to prove but until the players and us fans buy into his methods and get behind him 100% i feel it will be a uphill battle for him.

He has achieved the same as harrison 3 years into his rein with the minimum of fuss and a lot less money with developing players rather than harrison who in the main had the finished article.

Harrisons teams were built purley on team spirit and we all know what happened in the end you can only get so far up but you can fall a long long way when it goes wrong.

Tactically mcrae is spot on, he knows his teams limits and plays to their strenghts he'll win and win ugly in a heart beat, for it too work it needs the same level of performance we have seen from the players in the last two weeks, when the foot is taken off the gas by the players usually in may/june/july thats when he'll probably be most vunrable






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