Antonio Valencia is the most averagest, average player you will ever see. His decision-making and awareness of others is very poor. The following wingers / wide players are better:

* Andriyi Arshavin
* Aaron Lennon
* Joe Cole
* Florent Malouda
* Luka Modric
* Niko Krancjaer (sp?)
* Ashley Young
* James Milner
* Martin Petrov
* Craig Bellamy
* Matthew Etherington

I am sure there are more but I cannot be bothered listing any more. If he is 'excellent', how would you describe those listed above?

I'd say all those are better. Especially Arshavin, Young & Milner. Waaaay better.

Arshavin - Not a winger really, does not beat a man and put a cross in. More of an attacking midfielder imo.
Lennon - Great pace, often lacks a final ball but has become much mroe consistent this season and should go to the WC if fit.
Cole - Very good player on his day, can't remember the last time that was, nowhere near as good as Valencia this season.
Malouda - Always liked him right from his Lyon days.
Modric - Like Arshavin, more of an attacking midfielder.
Kranjcaer - Decent player, got an eye for goal but would not have him over Valencia.
Young - Very inconsistent and not been at his best this season, young enough to get better.
Milner - Would have him at Utd in a heartbeat and play him and Valencia on each wing.
Petrov - Always looked good when I have seen him, don't understand why he does not get more games, would rather have Valencia though.
Bellamy - Is a striker.
Etherington - Average PL winger, nowehere near as good as Valencia.

valencia is better than most youve mentiuoned there.

He's far from being the best player in the world (as some over-zealous Nited fans may suggest) but he's also far from being the "averagest average" player in the world either...the likes of Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson and Kieron Richardson alone are far far worthier of that title than he is.

He obviously has some talent as 5 goals and 9 assists in the PL alone this season would testify but, as ever, with him being a Nited player he doesn't seem to get judged fairly by you. He's no Martin "Buster" Phillips is he???

Some of those players listed above ARE better players than Valencia in certain aspects but as an all-round, team player in the position he holds for Nited then I honestly don't think any of those would have done better than he has this season. And Matthew Etherington?? Give us a break, that's just laughable!!

I wonder if Andy Murray has one

I wonder if Andy Murray has one

Oldham Rhino wrote:I wonder if Andy Murray has one I'd contact the police to let them know I'm not complaining and frankly couldn't give a flying one. Pointless story.

Oldham Rhino wrote:I wonder if Andy Murray has one I'd contact the police to let them know I'm not complaining and frankly couldn't give a flying one. Pointless story.

At the end of the day, it is only a bit of banter and another example of how barking the world has become at the moment.

Is a better passer and crosser of the ball, and is far better in front of goal. He is also more effective at beating man than Valencia.




His final ball this season, has been far better than that provided by Valencia. He also better at beating the full-back.



He's been injured all season, but if he and Valencia were available, would you honestly think that more clubs would be interested in signing Valencia?



Personally, I don't rate him that highly. If he played for West Ham he would be a slight upgrade on Luis Boa Morte....okay....a slight exaggeration. Regardless, I don't rate him.



He's certainly more of an attacking midfielder but can play outwide and in the middle. More intelligent than Valencia, makes the right decisions and can ghost past players. He's also a good passer of the ball




See comments about Malouda



One-trick-pony more interested in trying to get the refs attention. Good crosser of teh ball and his set pieces can be very good



Decent player but against a deep-lying defence, where he has to use a bit of trickery to get past a defender, he is very average.



He's lazy and meek. However, his passing, crossing and shooting is on a different planet to that of Valencia.



He is a striker but has played as a winger virtually all season. He's quicker, more intelligent and a bigger goal threat than Valencia


'Being average' is Valencia's level. Etherington is sharper, more intelligent and technically better


I did state "wingers / wide players".

As for Valencia, he's had a handful of decent games, just like he had at Wigan last season. He was poor during the second-half of 2008/09. But then even at the beginning of that season he only 'performed' so well because he got lucky with some long shots.


As usual with United fans, he was a nothing player while at Wigan. Within a few months of joining United he becomes brilliant, excellent etc..

Arshavin and Modric aren't really wide players but I'd take either of them at United.

I wouldn't be at all surprised, or upset, if Cole joins us in the summer. I think Milner is a great player and would love him at United, he could definitely help solve our problem without Giggs.

I wouldn't take any of the others at United, mainly because they aren't good enough. Nobody has said Valencia is "excellent" just simply that he has been a great buy for United. His crossing is probably the best at the club, as proven by the number of assists he has. I'm sure Rooney is very pleased to have Valencia in the team with his ability to drop the ball on his head.