Does gecko still think he's the best centre in Hull? We have 2 better centres on the wing and one sat in the stands

The kid really needs to get his act together because last night he was all over the shop but he seems a level headed kid so I expect him to work hard to put things right.

Having said that though, if Ratu was fit I'd drop Whelam.

It was a very poor TEAM performance lastnight.

Not trolling here..However from what I have seen of you Guys (sky games), that is one of the poorest performances I recall in the last couple of years, is this a major concern or do you believe it will get sorted and you are still capable of top 4.

We usually have three or four games were it just doesn't happen, as long as it doesn't go over that limit then we'll be fine. Just got to write last night off. Not an original opinion but there are so many variables in the second to twelfth group that we could finish anywhere, I don't think we'll make the top four again, hopefully top six, fairly sure we'll make the eight.

As for Welham, had a great full rookie season last year and is struggling with some problems that can easily be fixed. He needs an arm around him and given time to correct these aspects of his game, NOT his confidence shattering

I have seen you guys play on SKY the last couple of seasons, and you wern't much better at times!

Not a concern for me, yes it was an awful performance but one in which we can only improve on. Alot of individual mistakes where made that put us under huge pressure from a confident Wigan outfit.

Think you guys have to go there in a few weeks, lets see what happens and if you question your teams top 4 credentials.

I actually think you could start hitting your straps when the weather improves and the pitches firm up, your pack is quite light and you are going to have to use kick and chase tactics against bigger packs, you have the pace so should get results from this approach..

I am a big fan of Welham as he came through our amateur club, he appears to have dropped some weight and could do to bulk up a bit, he will hit his straps again I am sure.

Steady on fella, I am not here discussing FC!! For your info I have watched us perform worse

Second season is always difficult for young players. Hall suffered at Hull last year and after a loan spell had regained his confidence. Welham is a talented player but needs time and Justin probably needs to reduce his appearances and use him in games where he won't be targetted as much. As a B&W I saw him play live 7 times last year and he is certainly a solid player - but like you say, an arm round him will help.

he'll end up at batley