I find it hard to understand how you can turn on the team, this was LS's fault, again.

If you no longer want to support the Crusaders carry on but why spout so much crap? If you did love them for five years, supposedly said by you, i find it unbelievable that you have not only turned your back on them but wish them to fail?

If you can't afford to travel, that would be understandable and you could wish them the best but the instant dislike that you have shown makes me wonder, did you really support this team?

If all else fails, revert to personal insults eh?

As for the whole free speech thing, I just find it ironic and slightly hypocritical that you were always one of the first to tell Widnes/Leigh/whoever else's fans to scoot off of our board if they were winding you up, but now you're hear doing the same.

Your 'truths' probably differ very much from the actual truth, as do most people's. None of us will know the real truth, but I suppose knowing a few people at BFL and around Bridgend means you're privy to information nobody else is.

I suppose all will revealed in this 'explicit' money-spinner 'Sir' Gerald McCarthy and Kevin Ellis are releasing.

I appreciate that you are upset, but I think you really need to get a grip. The club had literally no option but to move North, because of Samuels appalling management the club would have gone bust. Would you have preferred that, considering that it would probably have been the end of RL in Wales? As it is, there is now a clear path for junior players, a sound base to build from in Wrexham and a new club in South Wales. I can understand if you do not wish to follow the Crusaders any more, but your continued bitterness and hatred is quire bizarre now considering the facts are available for all to see. Presumably you will be supporting the Scorpions?

Just thought id give it a try.

Good effort.

I particularly like the way the stadium in the background shows the crowd for the upcoming Crusaders v Catalans home match.

You aren't Doris Stokes by any chance are you?

Pity the RFL didn't see this

YOU made this personal AJH. YOU libelled me on another thread on another page.

I am happy to take brickbats for things I said or did. And I have done, many times. But YOU outright lied about me. And CONTINUE to do so. I have never told ANYBODY to leave "our" board as was. I like it when the trolls stay. It's fun to argue. If you have any literary knowledge or even like cartoons you will know Grendel is the troll who was killed by Beowulf. It was not a coincidence I chose the name.

You assume my privileged info came from BFL. Like so many of your assumptions, you are wrong. I am not one of the BF faithful, though I am friendly with some. I am also friendly with many of the BF is rubbish let's move to Newport lads too (though fewer of them now it seems). Hard as it may be for you to concieve, I also have OTHER friends involved in RL and some of these know things. I take it you will slander them shortly.

BOY! Turning on Gerald AND Kevin. What a "loyal" supporter you are. Kev's only JUST left the WCs. In your role as the Scorp supporters club teaboy you're gonna feel a right tit when Kevin Ellis takes a coaching role at the Scorps eh? Will you tell Kevin he's a cash chaser? No? Thought not!

Put it this way LITTLE boy, you make personal insults, you get them back. See you at the Gnoll

That is one version of the "facts". Put out by Mike Turner. The same Mike Turner who made endless statements of the "facts" last year that didn't exactly reflect reality.av Have a word with Dai Watkins about "The" Crusaders' honesty. You know who he is yes?



I suppose to those who, against all evidence, trust what the club says it would seem bizarre yes.

Though I am going to the Scorpions, I don't see why you would presume so: I am done with the Wrexham Crusaders ergo I would go and see their feeder club. Nah not a logical conclusion mate.

Those 'facts' have nothing to do with Mike Turner. The fact is that Leighton Samuel was one step above a con man and did not have the money to support the club - players were regularly not paid on time last year, and the RFL had crisis teams in Bridgend for most of the year. Then, when the full extent of Samuel's financial state was discovered, he conveniently went 'on holiday' to Dubai and could not be contacted for weeks. I do not know why this was not picked up by the RFL at the time of the license decision, but it obviously wasn't. Moss was the only potential buyer, and the club would no longer exist if he hadn't stepped in since there was no source of money in South Wales. Do you think that the club just decided to move hundreds of miles away from all their fans and infrastructure, or that the RFL would allow this and think it was a logical option? Particularly as they had already announced a move to Newport? I appreciate that you may not like or trust Mike Turner, but that's no reason to assume that everything he says is 100% the opposite of the truth, as you seem to have done here.

And I know full well who Dai Watkins is, my father was at Featherstone for his first ever game of Rugby League. I don't know what he has said about the Crusaders and frankly I'm not bothered as it doesn't change the truth.
What evidence do you have to the contrary then?
I just thought as a RL fan you might want to, I'm glad you are. I hope the Scorpions can become serious rivals to the Crusaders one day and then you will have a genuine reason to dislike them

Should both be in the same division by 2012

And we arent talking Superleague here