Not wanting to get involved in any argument. My opinion is that we will struggle to get near 10,000 untill the ground has a larger capacity & people can turn up & pay on the day & take non pass holders on a spurr of the moment whim. As I have posted before the club misses out on about 20 attendencess per season as with the East stand sold out some of my family dont come with me as they can not get in with me & are not commited enough to apply for tickets. There must be others in the same position.
Beverley red wrote:Not wanting to get involved in any argument. My opinion is that we will struggle to get near 10,000 untill the ground has a larger capacity & people can turn up & pay on the day & take non pass holders on a spurr of the moment whim. As I have posted before the club misses out on about 20 attendencess per season as with the East stand sold out some of my family dont come with me as they can not get in with me & are not commited enough to apply for tickets. There must be others in the same position.
They need to sort out the anti social behaviour in the east stand too. My dobbins supporting cousin was threatened by some psihed up t0sser last year for daring to tell him to put his fag out
barham red wrote:If the ground was improved it would increase corporate entertaining, increase pay on the day fans, be more attractive to bringing families to the ground and see an increased away support this would see an increase in both the gate and revenue streams.
The flip side would be fans wouldn't 'have' to buy a season pass to get in their preffered stand / ground. This would mean the playing product would need to stay at a high level to keep bringing in new and 'floating' support.
Do fans need to do that this year?. I know plenty that have decided against the whole club rovers thing and have just got tickets fairly easily for the east stand for the Big Kick-off even with your X actor loser entertainment and ticket offers to the local primary schools and netballers
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Forever FC wrote:Do fans need to do that this year?. I know plenty that have decided against the whole club rovers thing and have just got tickets fairly easily for the east stand for the Big Kick-off even with your X actor loser entertainment andticket offers to the local primary schools and netballers
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With the East stand it will take capacity to 10,000 decent viewing positions. I'd be happy to see us getting over 9,000 and over 10 for the big games. Sadly as we know other clubs fans are reluctant to travel "all the way" to Hull so we will have to work damn hard to get new fans to games, a trophy or two and FC actually becoming real rivals will help.
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JB Down Under wrote:With the East stand it will take capacity to 10,000 decent viewing positions. I'd be happy to see us getting over 9,000 and over 10 for the big games. Sadly as we know other clubs fans are reluctant to travel "all the way" to Hull so we will have to work damn hard to get new fans to games, a trophy or two and FC actually becoming real rivals will help.
I think that away following should be part of the franchise criteria. Both Hull clubs take good numbers away to every game, that has a huge benefit to each individual home club, but precious little financial benefit to either Hull or Rovers.
Say an average away following is 1000 paying around £15 entry to each game, that's £15K to each home club on ticket sales alone each time Hull or Rovers come to town. Over the season that's nearly £200K (from each set of supporters) benefit to the game (but not to either Hull club, who on the whole receive very poor away support). The argument for boosting away travelling supporters, is to me, compelling and, as I say, should be encouraged through the franchising process as there is actually very little the home club can do to encourage more visiting supporters, the onus should be on the away club to get more fans there.
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Barnacle Bill wrote:I think that away following should be part of the franchise criteria. Both Hull clubs take good numbers away to every game, that has a huge benefit to each individual home club, but precious little financial benefit to either Hull or Rovers.
Say an average away following is 1000 paying around £15 entry to each game, that's £15K to each home club on ticket sales alone each time Hull or Rovers come to town. Over the season that's nearly £200K (from each set of supporters) benefit to the game (but not to either Hull club, who on the whole receive very poor away support). The argument for boosting away travelling supporters, is to me, compelling and, as I say, should be encouraged through the franchising process as there is actually very little the home club can do to encourage more visiting supporters, the onus should be on the away club to get more fans there.
I think it's a good idea, but it's not something under a club's direct control, like the ground, home attendances, finances, youth development etc. Realistically a club won't spend money incentivising its own fans to travel away when they have enough on trying to maximise home attendances.
Mrs Barista wrote:I think it's a good idea, but it's not something under a club's direct control, like the ground, home attendances, finances, youth development etc. Realistically a club won't spend money incentivising its own fans to travel away when they have enough on trying to maximise home attendances.
They would if a license point was at stake.
A club could target sponsorship in the form of free or reduced travel to away games from coach operators or negotiate reciprocal deals with other clubs for incentives to travel.
All that is required is the will and incentive to do these things. At the moment there is no incentive and consequently no will.
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Barnacle Bill wrote:They would if a license point was at stake.
A club could target sponsorship in the form of free or reduced travel to away games from coach operators or negotiate reciprocal deals with other clubs for incentives to travel.
All that is required is the will and incentive to do these things. At the moment there is no incentive and consequently no will.
It will never happen. It penalises clubs that are geographically isolated (Catalans, Quins etc). The RFL are pro-expansion and away fan numbers as a criteria would be working against that agenda.
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