Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:42 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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[quote="gazza0606"]and i will strike a deal with you both!! if hull fc do finish 2nd i would like an apoligy basically for saying my knowledge of the game is tripe!! quote]
Calm down sweety, I never actually said your view was tripe.
I'll apologise now if it's going to soothe your delicate sensibilities, the truth is, I'm really not that bothered, this is a message board, it's not really all that serious.
My point was, 12th to 2nd is an awful big jump for a team that's still pretty much in transition with a coach that's yet to prove himself to the fans, never mind the rest of the league.
You won't need to apologise to me, not only will I have completely forgotten about this come October, I'm not that precious.
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Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:50 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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berrigans bitch wrote:I can smell the fear
Have you been standing too near the gum on the stamps again making your sense of smell go wobbly?
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Mild Rover wrote:What odds would you want today on Hull FC finishing in the Top 2 in the league? Genuine (hypothetical) question.
I'd want at least 12-1 for Rovers. 20-1 I'd take.
Given that at no point have I said that I believe Hull FC will finish in the top 2, your response would seem a tad silly as it would never be a bet that I personally place, but then I don't go down the gambling fools road anyway.
However anything is possible, as indeed happened in the 2006 campaign were we were also not forecast to finish in the top 2. Hull KR could well finish in the top 2. So forgive me for finding posts saying that it won't happen as silly as your response. It only takes a few injuries, shock transfers, unpredicted results and anything can happen - but then we never see any of that go on in Rugby League, do we?
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Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:09 pm
Dr Hfuhruhurr
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Joined: May 21 2009 Posts: 778
It pains me to say but Rovers will do well again this year, maybe not fourth but there or there abouts. An organised side that just look like they're coached well, probably because they are! I reckon one or two youngsters (especially in the forwards) will become regulars this season. Hull and Rovers, two totally contrasting teams that will both do well IMO.
Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:23 pm
Alex Mc
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Joined: Oct 16 2006 Posts: 5245 Location: Super League
Leeds - Head and shoulders above the rest.
Saints - Still a very good side. Losing Long may even give them a sense of the unknown this season. Warrington - Surely this year they will produce in the League. Argubly, the strongest squad in the league. Wigan - Think they will grind out 4th this year. Deacon will guide them, and I think LeuLeuai has the potential to be a top class hooker. Catalans - Some very good additions to an already impressive squad. Bradford - Much better side this season. Great pack and good halves. Maybe lacking slightly in the backs. Huddersfield - Could be higher dependent on other issues, but I cant see them finishing any lower than this. Hull - Very good pack and halves, but similar to Bradford, question marks over the back division we stop a serious challenge.
Hull KR - A few injuries in the pack could hit Rovers hard. A solid unit that will be hard to beat,but not strong enough to mount a serious challenge. Castleford - Alot of clubs have improved massively,and Cas seem to have stuck with a pretty similar squad. Like Rovers, hard to beat, but not in contention. Wakefield - Great coach and a decent team on their day. Alot again will depend on Brough. Harlequins - Inexperienced team will cause a few shocks, but inexperience will get the better of them in most matches. Crusaders - I think, like Quins, Crusaders will cause some shocks. They have made some astute acquisitions, but have been to hastily thrown together. Will get stronger as the season goes on.
Salford - Unlike the majority of the other teams, I dont see any improvement at all.
Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:32 pm
SirStan
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gazza0606 wrote:.... i will apoligise to you for saying i think you have a weaker team then ever!!......
If we played Newton on his own we would still be stronger than some of the teams we fielded in the later 1990's. I think you best get practising that apology.
Or if you meant SL era by your "ever" statement, our 11th place finish in 2007 will set the benchmark. Anything above a next to last finish should also draw that well-rehearsed apology.
Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:51 pm
Mild Rover
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Bal wrote:Given that at no point have I said that I believe Hull FC will finish in the top 2, your response would seem a tad silly as it would never be a bet that I personally place, but then I don't go down the gambling fools road anyway.
However anything is possible, as indeed happened in the 2006 campaign were we were also not forecast to finish in the top 2. Hull KR could well finish in the top 2. So forgive me for finding posts saying that it won't happen as silly as your response. It only takes a few injuries, shock transfers, unpredicted results and anything can happen - but then we never see any of that go on in Rugby League, do we?
No, I'm not a gambler either. As you say, anything could happen. pmh was responding to somebody (else) who predicted second for Hull. Even he said it could happen, before then saying it wouldn't. I used the odds merely as a way of assessing how likely you felt it was you'd be able come back in the autumn to say 'clamped'. If people were saying you won't make the play-offs - that would be leading with the chin. If you finish 2nd, I'll be the first to say it is a very fine performance. Well, maybe not the first.
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Post subject: Re: Where will we finish this season?
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:54 am
tonylRobin
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Joined: Oct 15 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: east hull
all this isnt really worth the arguement is it? as this is purely peoples opinions, Rovers fans think they'll do better and Hull fans think they'll do better, shock horror!!!!!!
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