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Jake the Peg wrote:Already posted that I've heard the deal relies on players moving on and currently they're not. Seems more plausable as the days go by
Would you move on if you were Mills or Fisher when you could earn a good salary from the stands? Blanket and Thermos - job's a good 'un.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Jake the Peg wrote:Already posted that I've heard the deal relies on players moving on and currently they're not. Seems more plausable as the days go by
Clinton has been very badly advised if that is the case. Would you quit a job to take another on the other side of the World, with the assurance that you can start when a current member of staff agrees to leave?
We have to add one to the homegrown quota in the top 25 earners and it occurred to me that Clinton might push a homegrown player out of the 25, but Fozzard, Fitzhenry, Gene and Aizue out, with only Ratu and Cook in (Hodgson is 20 so counts as homegrown for this year) so far means that shouldn't be the case. Then there is the cap... but Riolo said Clinton is waiting on his visa and as we haven't heard anymore either way on that, it strikes me as the simplest and therefore most likely explanation.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Mrs Barista wrote:Would you move on if you were Mills or Fisher when you could earn a good salary from the stands? Blanket and Thermos - job's a good 'un.
Can't see Fisher leaving and have seen nought to suggest it is likely. Mind I don't get much gossip down here.
Mills, going into the last year of a contract might have more motivation to move on and he'd have been a decent match for the Crusaders on paper - thing is it'd have to be a two year deal to make it worth his while and would you bet your livelihood on that club definately being around to compete in 2011? He'll be playing for a contract (somewhere and assuming he does play occasionally) this year, and the value of your investment can go up as well as down.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Joined: Sep 23 2006 Posts: 8033 Location: sea level once again
Mrs Barista wrote:Would you move on if you were Mills or Fisher when you could earn a good salary from the stands? Blanket and Thermos - job's a good 'un.
To be fair I think most Rugby League players would far rather be out on the pitch.
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Mild Rover wrote:Clinton has been very badly advised if that is the case. Would you quit a job to take another on the other side of the World, with the assurance that you can start when a current member of staff agrees to leave?
id presume that he would not financially lose out in anyway
Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
Mild Rover wrote:Secrecy would be best, but it is hard to keep a secret for long. You're are then left with going for the fanfare or downplaying it, which just invites more questions. If there is a problem it is just like choosing between oils and water colours to paint a car crash.
I agree there's a kind of 'damned if you do...' choice to make in these situations, but it just seems an odd strategy when every other club announces signings 'subject to visa' as soon as the contract is watertight. What may have started with a desire to avoid possible bad PR seems to have ended up generating just that as the uncertainty continues.
Mild Rover wrote:If he comes, job done. If he can't we'll have to look elsewhere - an open quota spot and spare cash on the cap isn't the worst way to enter a long season, especially given NRL players' propensity to need to, ahem, escape controversy. The lesson we should learn from the experiences of Hudds, Leeds, Hull and Bradford is to move on quickly, if we can, should there be a problem. I suspect he'll come, but I'd be slightly (if pleasantly) surprised if he plays against Salford now.
Quite. It's hardly a disaster if he doesn't arrive, which makes the apparent 'cloak and daggery' even more puzzling.
Oh well - it will all come out in the wash at some point and there will no doubt be a completely boring and rational explanation for it all.
Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One
Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
Bertie wrote:I can think of one import / and one prospective import who were even sitting on the beaches in Oz last season picking up a damned sight more
You can afford these luxuries when you make a profit year after year.
Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One
Kosh wrote:I agree there's a kind of 'damned if you do...' choice to make in these situations, but it just seems an odd strategy when every other club announces signings 'subject to visa' as soon as the contract is watertight. What may have started with a desire to avoid possible bad PR seems to have ended up generating just that as the uncertainty continues.
Nail on head, the policy of keeping it quiet was the right one if we could have just announced 'out of the blue' he had signed and was available to play straight away. That way it would avoid the fanfare and subsequent disappointments that occurred at Hull, Bradford, Leeds and Hudds last year.
The problem with this one is it is now in the public domain, rightly or not, and the club really need to clarify their position on this subject. By not doing so it generates as much (if not more) fanfare / disappointment than it would if it had been handled in the manner of last years visa debacles.
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