Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 14145 Location: At the Gates of Delirium
Scott_HKR wrote:I just don't think it takes a possibly over the hill scrum half, and a couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries) to turn you from a poor side into a good side over night. Sounds familiar that....
I must have missed the signings of these "...couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries)" somewhere - could you enlighten me who they are please?
Interestingly, I see that the "... possibly over the hill scrum half" is rated higher than all bar two scrum halves in the competition in his points value by at least on major RL Fantasy League site, despite him playing for a team that your mate above thinks could well miss out on the play-offs again.
Joined: Feb 01 2006 Posts: 1782 Location: Hull (East of Course!)
Adeybull wrote:I must have missed the signings of these "...couple of has over the hil NRL players (with niggling injuries)" somewhere - could you enlighten me who they are please?
Interestingly, I see that the "... possibly over the hill scrum half" is rated higher than all bar two scrum halves in the competition in his points value by at least on major RL Fantasy League site, despite him playing for a team that your mate above thinks could well miss out on the play-offs again.
First and foremost, my post was a sarcastic dig at Hull's signings, not Bradford's. Secondly, I do think Bradford have improved, but I'm sure you'll admit they needed improving did they not? Leeds have brought in Eastwood when they didn't need to sign any1, hell they could have released three or four and still be better than the rest. So Bradford are now, in my opinion, at a level to compete with the likes of Rovers, Saints, Huddersfield, but to have replaced the 6, 7 and 9 positions is a bit risky in that it may not gel straight away. And the loss of Burgess would hurt the best team in the world, so is definately going to hurt Bradford.
Oh and mate, don't embaress yourself by quoting a player's value in a Fantasy RL Game lol.
All in all, I just don't think bradford are going to be this force overnight, and we may have found our new warrington for this season
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 14145 Location: At the Gates of Delirium
Scott_HKR wrote:First and foremost, my post was a sarcastic dig at Hull's signings, not Bradford's. Secondly, I do think Bradford have improved, but I'm sure you'll admit they needed improving did they not? Leeds have brought in Eastwood when they didn't need to sign any1, hell they could have released three or four and still be better than the rest. So Bradford are now, in my opinion, at a level to compete with the likes of Rovers, Saints, Huddersfield, but to have replaced the 6, 7 and 9 positions is a bit risky in that it may not gel straight away. And the loss of Burgess would hurt the best team in the world, so is definately going to hurt Bradford.
Oh and mate, don't embaress yourself by quoting a player's value in a Fantasy RL Game lol.
All in all, I just don't think bradford are going to be this force overnight, and we may have found our new warrington for this season
OK...that makes more sense now. Yes indeed, sure did need improving - hence the changes. And I'd agree should make us more competitive now - Leeds will still be a big ask, although we've played a strongish Leeds team in a friendly and they looked far from invincible - and yes, it will surely take time for 6,7 and 9 to gel hence me not expecting miracles immediately. If we finish well up the top half of the table, and are challenging again for honours from 2011, I'll be content.
Joined: Apr 06 2006 Posts: 1103 Location: The Heart of East Hull
As I've stated on the bradford site in the past, Bradford's recruitment reminds me of Wigan's trent barrett strategy a couple of seasons ago, they've spent big on one superstar in orford, added 2 or 3 other good aussies in kearney, hall and l'estrange and then seemingly with little salary cap left, they have plugged the holes in the squad with talented but untried youngsters oh and danny sculthorpe! The first 17 looks pretty good, but there's nothing in reserve of any strength so in theory if they keep their key men fit for a full season......
Incidently make up your own mind if Wigan's "all your eggs in 1 basket" theory worked, they reached the playoff semis from a lower play off position and reached the challenge cup semis but never won anything, I'm sure Bradford fans would take that after last year.
Joined: Apr 08 2006 Posts: 7069 Location: Central Coast
Adeybull wrote:we've played a strongish Leeds team in a friendly and they looked far from invincible
leeds did have peacock(5*), webb(2*), senior(4*), bailey(4*), ablett(3*) and kirke(3*) missing. they have 21 gf winners rings between them. plus nrl gf and world cup winner eastwood missing too. yes it was a strongish leeds team you only just lost to, but it could have been alot stronger and imo a lot harder to beat.
*gf winners rings per player
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sgtwilko wrote:leeds did have peacock(5*), webb(2*), senior(4*), bailey(4*), ablett(3*) and kirke(3*) missing. they have 21 gf winners rings between them. plus nrl gf and world cup winner eastwood missing too. yes it was a strongish leeds team you only just lost to, but it could have been alot stronger and imo a lot harder to beat.
sgtwilko wrote:i think the bulls could well miss out on the play offs again. i thought so last year(me and ewwenorfolk had a bet on it and do again this year) i think the bulls for a few reasons are weaker than last season.
1, they have lost all their leaders, deacs, morrison, newton and burgess. the heart of the bradford club bar langley is gone.
2, they have lost their best player in burgess
3, if orford gets injured they are fooked, they have an nrl fullback who couldnt get a game at 6 is now their back up scrum half????
4, their squad is full of average journey men.
5, their coach is not up to the job.
this is just my opinion and i could look very stupid come the end of the season(it wouldnt be the first time)
Come on Wilko, I think you know you're being a bit harsh with your criticism here.
Yes you were weakened on our friendly, but you cannot deny that Kearney looked good and was very dangerous with ball in hand.
So Menzies & Lynch aren't leaders at all then? Plus Orford is a proven good captain, adn L'Estrange seems like one of the characters who is always spurring the team on.
Saying our squad is full of average journey men is ridiculous and you know it.
Journey men : Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe are the only real journey men I see. We have alot of youngsters coming through, and a fair bit of good talent.
Would you seriously call any of Menzies, Lynch, Scruton, Langley, Halley, Kopzcak, L'Estrange, Kearney, Orford, Hall, Kearney or any of the youngsters journeymen? Less than a quarter of our squad are what i'd consider journeymen, hardly full of them?
And if we hadn't have let Burgess go, I doubt he'd have played like he did in the 4 nations for us, if he doesn't want to be here, plus you had the same thing with Ellis and didn't seem to suffer.
Lastly, he needs to prove himself, and I find it harder to disagree with your last point!
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