Joined: Jan 27 2005 Posts: 2687 Location: Westhoughton
Grendel wrote:Not sure how relevant this is, but it seems that the Wrexham ANZACS are not even the same team legally.
A bloke on the SW Scorps website has found that Celtic Crusaders Limited is being / has been wound up and a new company formed with the name Wrexham Crusaders Limited and a new company number.
So it seems that the only thing the Wrexham Crusaders (THEIR name, not my dig) have in common with the late lamented (by me) CELTIC Crusaders is half a dozen players, half a dozen supporters and Mike fakking Turner.
As such it seems odd to me that the WC were given the franchise previously awarded to the CC, without even having to apply.
I think you will find that when any club is sold it the company that owns them trades under a new name thats just business Wigan Trades under a new company name since Whelan sold them as do Widnes.
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Joined: Jan 27 2005 Posts: 2687 Location: Westhoughton
Andy Greg wrote:I think you will find that when any club is sold the company that owns them trades under a new name thats just business Wigan Trades under a new company name since Whelan sold them as do Widnes.
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Andy Greg wrote:That was a slight dig at Leigh.
The relocation should bring in more supporters and be a more stable environment for the club to build on.
4 years ok Promoted from NL2 to NL1 second in in NL1 and given a Super League License what is the problem with that now if they had been 4th or 5th in NL1 when the licence was granted then everyone would have something to complain about.
There is no future in just having clubs in the heartlands we have got to expand to grow give the club a chance just look what Catalan achieved in there first 3 years.
And supporting an unpopular team is nothing new to me been a Wigan season ticket holder for 40 years and still am but i am also giving my support to the Crusaders.
Give the Club a chance and support the sport not just your own club if we are every going to compete with Union we all need to pull together and have a truly National game not just in the M62 corridor.
as stated, you can't use Catalan as a comparison. That club is in a fierce RL "Heartland"!!!
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Joined: Mar 09 2004 Posts: 33944 Location: watching out for low flying geese
Andy Greg wrote:Oh sorry i did not realize you were a fan of the second team in Wigan
I think you will find support will build and its not the expansion you should be against its the RFL not having the bottle to remove a Super League team in the last round of licenses.
And if your team had been in Super League and played like last year you would have not won a game. Also the RFL saved you from being in Championship 1 this season because Gateshead had problems so Leigh should not have any gripe with the Curusaders being in Super League.
Having a team in Wales can only do the game good and bring in more Uk talent to League. And you must also see the RFL saved London on more than 1 occasion so a team in Wales has to be given at least 6 years. Just look how well Catalan did at the end of there first 3 years time is one thing a fledgling club should be given.
By the way thanks for the Bricks for Wigan civic Centre in the 70s
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I'm not against expansion , I'm against bad expansion , ill though out badly judges and executed expansion
Why should the RFL have removed a club last season ? that would have been daft
The RFL didn't ' save ' us at all , we were quite correctly relegated , unfortunatley because Gateshead requested to be placed in Championship 1 that meant the RFL decided a re shaping of the league structure was needed , we would have quite happily played our local rivals next season rather than all our Yorkshire friends
Yes a team in Wales is a good thing , pity it isn't the same one we had last season
Wether they should be given time is irrelivant , they wont have it
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Joined: Mar 09 2004 Posts: 33944 Location: watching out for low flying geese
Andy Greg wrote:That was a slight dig at Leigh.
The relocation should bring in more supporters and be a more stable environment for the club to build on.
4 years ok Promoted from NL2 to NL1 second in in NL1 and given a Super League License what is the problem with that now if they had been 4th or 5th in NL1 when the licence was granted then everyone would have something to complain about.
There is no future in just having clubs in the heartlands we have got to expand to grow give the club a chance just look what Catalan achieved in there first 3 years.
And supporting an unpopular team is nothing new to me been a Wigan season ticket holder for 40 years and still am but i am also giving my support to the Crusaders.
Give the Club a chance and support the sport not just your own club if we are every going to compete with Union we all need to pull together and have a truly National game not just in the M62 corridor.
Why should the re location bring in more fans , the lack of a top notch union club and any decent football teams should be a clear indication of what support for sports clubs there are in the area
Yes they did finish second in NL 1 in 2008 , and as we now know much of that was down to them employing players on illeagal Visa's , I wont even go into the salary cap issue [ you being a Wigan fan know all about cheating those ]
Just why exactly should fans of non SL clubs support SL clubs ? , exactly what benifit will our clubs get from the success or failure of the Crusaders ? , You say we should support the ' sport ' , does the ' sport ' support our clubs ? ,
We already have a truly national game , it's called the Championships
kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
Joined: Jan 24 2008 Posts: 4245 Location: Newport, South Wales
As long as we get more fans through the gate than Harlequins I am very confident Crusaders can get another franchise place and push on from there.
We have as good an off the field set up now, with the takeover, as virtually every other Super League club. That is personel, ground, facilities not even taking into account the fact the club are still viewed as an expansion area.
All we need now are the fans to buy the merchandise and fill the ground. This will go hand in hand with results on the field as it usually does. This sadly, will be the hardest couple of things to achieve. I do feel though, that if the RFL give quins a franchise spot (which is, let's be honest, virtually certain) then they will have to give us one as we have as good a set up off the field and will have more fans over a much shorted period.
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rhys hanbury and rocky trimarchi apparently signed, and weller hauraki is set to join. (THE SUN)
Willie Mason will apparently look over the Crusaders deal this week and make a decision. Also in talks with a aussies that owns a british passport (League Express)
Joined: Oct 30 2005 Posts: 6268 Location: Warrington UK
Cru, your biggest problem is that you're running out of time to sell merch and market, like, serrriously low on time. Has there been ANYTHING in the wrexham papers?
Joined: Mar 09 2004 Posts: 33944 Location: watching out for low flying geese
Dico wrote:Cru, your biggest problem is that you're running out of time to sell merch and market, like, serrriously low on time. Has there been ANYTHING in the wrexham papers?
Who to , they dont have any fans
kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
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