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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:04 pm 
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At the end of the day, any Hull fan who says we haven't missed him is badly wrong. Likewise any Rovers fan who believes he signed for Rovers due to his love of the club is deluded.
The move came down to him wanting more money. Rovers were happy to give it to him. The baggage he brings with him though means he's just not worth it.
He hasn't had the same impact at Rovers because the team wasn't built around him like it was at Hull.
While I don't like the guy as an individual (I didn't think much of his antics whilst he was at Hull), I think it's a crying shame that his undoubted promise will never be fulfilled. The guy could have been a GB regular, but his lifestyle choices have stopped him.
He will end up at Wakey with Kear, and both Hull & Rovers supporters will both be thinking what might have been.

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Irregular Hoops wrote:At the end of the day, any Hull fan who says we haven't missed him is badly wrong. Likewise any Rovers fan who believes he signed for Rovers due to his love of the club is deluded.
The move came down to him wanting more money. Rovers were happy to give it to him. The baggage he brings with him though means he's just not worth it.
He hasn't had the same impact at Rovers because the team wasn't built around him like it was at Hull.
While I don't like the guy as an individual (I didn't think much of his antics whilst he was at Hull), I think it's a crying shame that his undoubted promise will never be fulfilled. The guy could have been a GB regular, but his lifestyle choices have stopped him.
He will end up at Wakey with Kear, and both Hull & Rovers supporters will both be thinking what might have been.


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 Post subject: Re: Cooke for sale ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:16 am 
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Irregular Hoops wrote:At the end of the day, any Hull fan who says we haven't missed him is badly wrong. Likewise any Rovers fan who believes he signed for Rovers due to his love of the club is deluded.
The move came down to him wanting more money. Rovers were happy to give it to him. The baggage he brings with him though means he's just not worth it.
He hasn't had the same impact at Rovers because the team wasn't built around him like it was at Hull.
While I don't like the guy as an individual (I didn't think much of his antics whilst he was at Hull), I think it's a crying shame that his undoubted promise will never be fulfilled. The guy could have been a GB regular, but his lifestyle choices have stopped him.
He will end up at Wakey with Kear, and both Hull & Rovers supporters will both be thinking what might have been.


Good post, not sure about the last bit about thinking what might have been, will really have to up his game, maybe JK can get the best out of him again.

He was good for Hull 9and we have missed him and IMO that is to go with him not being replaced rather than how great he was, if Dykes stayed fit, we wouldnt even have noticed he had gone.

The problem with him at Hull is that we relayed on him too much in attack, if he wasnt playing well we didnt have a plan B.

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 Post subject: Re: Cooke for sale ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:45 am 
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Irregular Hoops wrote:At the end of the day, any Hull fan who says we haven't missed him is badly wrong. Likewise any Rovers fan who believes he signed for Rovers due to his love of the club is deluded.
The move came down to him wanting more money. Rovers were happy to give it to him. The baggage he brings with him though means he's just not worth it.
He hasn't had the same impact at Rovers because the team wasn't built around him like it was at Hull.
While I don't like the guy as an individual (I didn't think much of his antics whilst he was at Hull), I think it's a crying shame that his undoubted promise will never be fulfilled. The guy could have been a GB regular, but his lifestyle choices have stopped him.
He will end up at Wakey with Kear, and both Hull & Rovers supporters will both be thinking what might have been.
dont think he will end up anywhere ! hes got a self distruct mode and serious lifestyle choices , the wheels are coming loose again! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Cooke for sale ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:47 am 
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A controversial figure and an enigmatic player - moments of brilliance and long spells of quiet. I suspect he'll continue to divide opinion among Rovers fans long after he is gone. I like his style of play, so tend to a more favourable view of him.
When he signed Rovers were on a 6 game losing streak (the last against Salford), but it felt that his arrival lifted the club and 2 wins in the next 3 were enormously important in the fight against relegation. He then wasn't involved in another win for 7 rounds - until the crucial Salford game, where he scored his first Rovers try. His virtuoso display in the 42-6 derby and the drop goal that won the final game of the season made it feel that his signing was going to be truly momentous.
Then he started 2008 banned, had to adapt to a new half-back partner midway through the year and ended it out of favour after infamously being 'unfit for selection'. IMO in 2009 he repaired some of the damage and he continues to show flashes of genius - especially in derbies. But with the club's horizons broadening and given his big wage it is natural that others options be looked at, long-term. OTOH If he wants to stay, keeps his nose clean and accepts a more realistic wage, I'd consider keeping him on beyond 2010 - he's still only 29 iirc and there aren't too many better non-quota stand-offs that are likely to be available out there.

east hull FC fan wrote:When he looks back on his career in 10 years time he will realize that the grass isn't greener on the other side.

But he got more money and left a team that had peaked and then entered a pretty awful trough, for one that has been on the up.

east hull FC fan wrote:He could of been a legend at Hull but was blinded by your chairmans clear goal of just getting one over on FC.


He added much needed quality to a hard-working but limited squad in a battle for survival that was absolutely crucial to the club's long-term ambitions. The Rovers-Hull element added a bit of spice (and made us feel less guilty :wink: ), but I'm pretty certain we'd have signed him under the same circumstances if he'd been at another club at the time.

east hull FC fan wrote:Yes he was a massive loss for us, but it wasn't "instrumental" in us taking as many backward steps as we have, that has been down to poor recruitment and retention by P. Sharpe. We have now adressed this and will get back on the wagon I'm sure, as for Cooke? Well, maybe rovers should see what he gave up in switching teams and show some loyalty towards him.


What he gave up was, by your own admission, playing for a team that was recruiting poorly and took many backward steps - for less money. Rovers will honour his contract (unless he takes the opportunity reported in the HDM to secure a longer-term deal elsewhere) and look after the interests of HKR.






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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:38 pm 
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roversmad wrote:I meant in the FINAL you numpty :roll:


and i meant 80 mins you numpty






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Mild Rover wrote:A controversial figure and an enigmatic player - moments of brilliance and long spells of quiet. I suspect he'll continue to divide opinion among Rovers fans long after he is gone. I like his style of play, so tend to a more favourable view of him.
When he signed Rovers were on a 6 game losing streak (the last against Salford), but it felt that his arrival lifted the club and 2 wins in the next 3 were enormously important in the fight against relegation. He then wasn't involved in another win for 7 rounds - until the crucial Salford game, where he scored his first Rovers try. His virtuoso display in the 42-6 derby and the drop goal that won the final game of the season made it feel that his signing was going to be truly momentous.
Then he started 2008 banned, had to adapt to a new half-back partner midway through the year and ended it out of favour after infamously being 'unfit for selection'. IMO in 2009 he repaired some of the damage and he continues to show flashes of genius - especially in derbies. But with the club's horizons broadening and given his big wage it is natural that others options be looked at, long-term. OTOH If he wants to stay, keeps his nose clean and accepts a more realistic wage, I'd consider keeping him on beyond 2010 - he's still only 29 iirc and there aren't too many better non-quota stand-offs that are likely to be available out there.

But he got more money and left a team that had peaked and then entered a pretty awful trough, for one that has been on the up.

He added much needed quality to a hard-working but limited squad in a battle for survival that was absolutely crucial to the club's long-term ambitions. The Rovers-Hull element added a bit of spice (and made us feel less guilty :wink: ), but I'm pretty certain we'd have signed him under the same circumstances if he'd been at another club at the time.

What he gave up was, by your own admission, playing for a team that was recruiting poorly and took many backward steps - for less money. Rovers will honour his contract (unless he takes the opportunity reported in the HDM to secure a longer-term deal elsewhere) and look after the interests of HKR.
The length of your post shows you spent a long time thinking it through.....













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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:07 pm 
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east hull FC fan wrote:The length of your post shows you spent a long time thinking it through.....


Or that I can think quickly. :wink:






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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Mild Rover wrote:Or that I can think quickly. :wink:
Or.. That you're fingers type faster than your brain can think! :wink:

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Willa wrote:and i meant 80 mins you numpty

I know you numpty :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :CRAZY:






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