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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:53 am 
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El Chupacabra wrote:Talk about deluded.

Given your response id say you are yes.

Cooke left Hull FC because he was in the crapper financially due to his court case and Hudgell thought he could get one over hull by paying over the odds salary wise to get him. Wanting to play for the team he supported was just a transparent smokescreen.

Had it not been for incompetance on the part of Hull and his contract issue he would not have had that option so what Rovers paid him in wages is not that important.
A Top Super League player comes available to sign for the newly promoted team tipped as certainty's for relegation and you expect that Hudge and Morgan would turn the chance to sign him down
Get Real :lol:


Briscoe left Hull partly due to Sharpe wanting Motu Tony as first choice full back and also due to trying to hold out for an international call up to help with his contract which never materialised. He also didn't want to leave Hull.

Turned out well that one didnt it.
Briscoe was rumoured to have been offered terms by Wigan too yet saw enough potentcial at Craven Park to sign.
Having played with Cooke im sure that was a consideration along with the recruitment of Galea, Newton and Jake Webster.


As for Wheeldon, he hasn't proved a loss to hull, so you're welcome to him.

Well as he was replaced with Dominic Maloney / Sam Moa make your own comparison.
He did enough last season to prove himself a good signing for the Robins.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:53 am 
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Willa wrote:i was including half time :wink:

Yeah cos football teams in the FA Cup semis are only 105 mins from Wembley :roll:

Nice try but no cigar :lol: :lol: :lol:






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 Post subject: Re: Cooke for sale ?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:05 am 
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east hull FC fan wrote:At the end of another day, he hasn't been a patch on the player he was at Hull. I personally think you would of survived in 2007 without Paul Cooke.

Hypothetical.
But he played well in the Key games like Salford away.


The big name players you have signed have all been players that have not had their contracts renewed elsewere ie. Briscoe, wheeldon even Newton! Nobody has deliberately let their contracts run out so they could leave for Rovers as you seem to be implying.

You misunderstand my point.
Had other teams offered them terms too they may have gone to the more established sides rather then SL newbies.
Cooke signing was a statement of intent.


Let's not forget also that Cooke is a player that can win you challenge cup finals and be instrumental in getting a team to a GF. He will probably leave at the end of 2010, and then what for him? He goes to a wakey or cas or even Celtic! When he looks back on his career in 10 years time he will realize that the grass isn't greener on the other side. He could of been a legend at Hull but was blinded by your chairmans clear goal of just getting one over on FC.

Why Hull fans persist with this train of thought really bemuses me.
A quality player became available.
Rovers signed him
He just happened to play for Hull FC at the time.



Yes he was a massive loss for us, but it wasn't "instrumental" in us taking as many backward steps as we have, that has been down to poor recruitment and retention by P. Sharpe. We have now adressed this and will get back on the wagon I'm sure, as for Cooke? Well, maybe rovers should see what he gave up in switching teams and show some loyalty towards him.

He was a huge part of it as he was your pivot and as yet he has never been fully replaced.
Until Long produces in a B&W shirt he still hasnt.
There were 'other' factors
But i know where your coming from.



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Cooke signing for rovers was for one reason and one reason only, money, it had nothing to do with anything else. He engineered it, because Hull wouldn't pay him a salary increase You make it out as if it was a case of him being made available to speak to clubs after the anti tampering deadline, where all the other clubs knew he was available to sign. That wasn't the case at all, and you know it. He had already been allowed to talk to other clubs by Hull before his contract renewal took place and no one was interested on what he was looking for salary wise.

Regarding Wheeldon, and comparing him with Sam Moa, they play 2 different games. Wheeldon is nothing more than a workhorse where Moa is there for impact.






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El Chupacabra wrote:Cooke signing for rovers was for one reason and one reason only, money, it had nothing to do with anything else. He engineered it, because Hull wouldn't pay him a salary increase [b]You make it out as if it was a case of him being made available to speak to clubs after the anti tampering deadline, where all the other clubs knew he was available to sign. [/b]That wasn't the case at all, and you know it. He had already been allowed to talk to other clubs by Hull before his contract renewal took place and no one was interested on what he was looking for salary wise.


Do i :?:
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Do i :?:
Where :?:

Had it not been for incompetence on the part of Hull and his contract issue he would not have had that option so what Rovers paid him in wages is not that important.
A Top Super League player comes available to sign for the newly promoted team tipped as certainty's for relegation and you expect that Hudge and Morgan would turn the chance to sign him down


It wasn't exactly a case of Cooke choosing Rovers after being involved in negotiations with other super league clubs who were aware of his availability and were interested in signing him. He chose rovers due to financial desperation,and Hudgell's ego of wanting to get one over Hull FC.






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El Chupacabra wrote:It wasn't exactly a case of Cooke choosing Rovers after being involved in negotiations with other super league clubs who were aware of his availability and were interested in signing him. He chose rovers due to financial desperation,and Hudgell's ego of wanting to get one over Hull FC.



I still do not see where i said that.
Its your own interpretation that you believe not mine.

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What is an "ego of wanting to get one over someone"?

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roversmad wrote:Yeah cos football teams in the FA Cup semis are only 105 mins from Wembley :roll:

Nice try but no cigar :lol: :lol: :lol:



there already at wembley you fool :lol:






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Willa wrote:there already at wembley you fool :lol:

I meant in the FINAL you numpty :roll:






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