Chris Dalton wrote:I kind of agree thats disrespectful, and to be honest there are no routien wins for most teams in the premiership any more. But you kind of sound bitter, you don't feel hard done to do you?

PAUL M wrote:Utd were awful and did not deserve to win the game I thought. City should have a penalty in the first half too. Rooney is becoming like Ronaldo, everything goes through him, we desperately need some new players but we won't get any in January. A winger, an attacking midfielder and a centre back.

Sexual Deviant wrote:Not at all, it's just that for years we could only see the attitude of big-time charlies from afar. Experiencing it first hand is spew-inducing, and at times i don't think some of them realise just what they are saying.

Don't get me wrong, we've picked some fans up along the way who can go away and die for me, but they don't stand out as much as they do at the "Big 4". That quote earlier in the thread about modern football being w@nk, well the fans have played a huge part. And that's sad.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Personally I think you're having a cry over nothing.

All Mark did was say that United picked up a routine win. They are the champions, they'd have been expected to win, and they won 3-1.

Quite simply there was no reason for you to throw your toys out of the pram.

Robbie Rotten wrote:Who do we think will be in and out of Eastlands in January, then?

I felt at the start of the season their full backs were weak and they still look pretty average. Maybe another centre half in and move Toure to right back? Or do they need proper full backs, i.e wing backs like your Maicons etc.?

It will be interesting to see what formation he decides on using during his time there, I didn't see the game on the weekend but I managed to see a bit of his Inter side in his last season and I rarely recall the use of wingers. Could we see a diamond being used, similar to that of Chelsea's, with Robinho playing the 'trequartista' role? In his Inter side, the full backs were the providers of width, no offence to Bridge, Richards and Zabaleta, but they're not your flying full backs with flashy technique, they're solid, workmanlike players who are solid squad players, but nothing more, at least for a side with aspirations.

I've not read too much about the Mancini situation, but is he seen as a long term investment, or is he simply a stop gap until the summer, where the window for managers will be much more open? I personally saw him as a stop gap, I think he could surprise a few people, but I can see him doing a similar job to that of Ramos at Madrid last year. He'll get things back on track, get a few much needed players in, attempt to lay some foundations but probably won't be the man who the club see taking them forward in the long term. I think he's an underrated coach, but I don't think he was City's number one target, nor do I believe that he was the ideal coach to take the club to where they want to be, but I'm no expert.

PAUL M wrote:Utd were awful and did not deserve to win the game I thought. City should have a penalty in the first half too. Rooney is becoming like Ronaldo, everything goes through him, we desperately need some new players but we won't get any in January. A winger, an attacking midfielder and a centre back.

mutt1 wrote:I agree we looked short outwide yesterday with Valencia having a nightmare and Giggs not fully fit, it looks like the club are doing all they can to offload Tosic and Nani in the window. We're being linked with Ben Arfa in the french papers after he's fallen out with Marsellie. I rememeber when he first came onto the scene and he looked like he had a big future in the game but has struggled the last couple of years.

Central midfield is a strange one for me as Carrick is a fine player when on his game but has been poor so far this season, Scholes has blown hot and cold and Fletcher has been solid the problem is there just doesn't seem to be any pace in the middle. I'm hoping that Hargreaves can comeback and show somekind of form which may give Carrick a bit more confidence going forward. We have a couple of attacking midfielders with alot of tallent already at the club but i think this season is too soon to bring them through.

As for signing a centerhalf when fit Ferdinand and Vidic are a great partnership with Evans and Brown great backup it's just freaky that this season all our injurys have hit in the same position which will probably never happen again. Who could we sign with quality but be happy to sit in the reserves as 5th choice Centre half?

The Itallian press say we'll sign Sebastien Frey from Fiorentina in January but i'd be supprised at that.

flipper wrote:Ben Arfa sounds a big of a handfull off the pitch, but £5m was mentioned, which is probably worth a punt - i think some of Obertans cameo's show how little Nani appears to have come on, one consistently makes the right pass, the right run and the right option, the other doesn't.

Agree the midfield can be somewhat one paced with little 'drive' - Carrick has bags of talent, but just doesn't produce it often enough, for me, especially when paired with Scholes.

flipper wrote:Ben Arfa sounds a big of a handfull off the pitch, but £5m was mentioned, which is probably worth a punt - i think some of Obertans cameo's show how little Nani appears to have come on, one consistently makes the right pass, the right run and the right option, the other doesn't.

Agree the midfield can be somewhat one paced with little 'drive' - Carrick has bags of talent, but just doesn't produce it often enough, for me, especially when paired with Scholes.