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 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket- England in SA
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:10 pm 
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The Angry Pirate wrote:
Instead of this constant, usually unsuccessful, hunt for an all rounder, the selectors should instead be working on a policy of finding 5 batsman & a keeper who can actually compile 300-400 runs between them on a consistent basis. This would then leave the way open to actually have 5 potentially match winning bowlers, instead of carrying the all rounding makeweight.




It would be nice - as the lower order tend to contribute really well, would be nice if they were going in with a total on the board.

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 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket- England in SA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:50 am 
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The Angry Pirate wrote:Wright, in my opinion, is a throwback to the bad old days of the 90's, when we had an obsession of finding the next Ian Botham and we tried several, supposed, all rounders who were never fit to play Test cricket (Mark Ealham & Adam Hollioake being a couple who spring to mind).

Instead of this constant, usually unsuccessful, hunt for an all rounder, the selectors should instead be working on a policy of finding 5 batsman & a keeper who can actually compile 300-400 runs between them on a consistent basis. This would then leave the way open to actually have 5 potentially match winning bowlers, instead of carrying the all rounding makeweight.

True test all rounders are a rare thing...the problem is that during the 80's there was a situation where every side seemed to have one (Botham, Hadlee, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan) and this has led to the belief that the all rounding number 6 is a must....This belief must be stopped if we are to ever progress.



I agree great test match all-rounders off yesteryear seem to have all but gone. However, the days of your 9, 10 and 11 being just bowlers is also gone. Runs frequently come down the order these days from players that are not(for some reason) considered good enough to be all-rounders??
Daniel Vettori, Anil Kumble, Harbhajan Singh, our own Graeme Swann, Shane Warne, Mitchell Johnson, to name but a few. Even the likes of Jimmy Anderson seems to have picked up the knack of being difficult to get out and can hang around and frustrate.

England in particular have Stuart Broad, Jimmy Anderson, Graeme Swann, Adil Rashid, Liam Plunkett(potentially), Tim Bresnan that can all bat a bit. Granted we still have the Monty Panasars and Graham Onions of this world too but generally a lot more runs come down the order these days.






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 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket- England in SA
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:31 am 
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Eng unchanged. SA win toss and choose to bat.

SA 34-2

Onions yet to take a wicket is leading Smith a merry dance, done everything but find the edge.






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 Post subject: Re: Super Cricket- England in SA
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:43 pm 
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Kallis & Smith now loking comfortable....England's ridiculous policy of persevering with Bell and thus going in a bowler light will inevitably come back to bite them on the backside at some point in this test.... :evil:






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England fought back well, should be another decent Test match.






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PAUL M wrote:England fought back well, should be another decent Test match.


I'll be suprised to see a positive result if we only have 60 overs per day...






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Wheels wrote:I'll be suprised to see a positive result if we only have 60 overs per day...


True.

Boucher gone lbw to Swann, after a review.

235-6

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Cracking start from Strauss yesterday, just a shame he couldn't carry it on further. Still, into 3 figures with only 1 down is a good start.......






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Great knock by Cook. Colly also played really well and Bell played really fluently. Bat as long as we can tomorrow and then see if we can get SA in trouble. They key will be Swann, if he bowls well and we have a 150plus lead then we could be in business.






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PAUL M wrote:Great knock by Cook. Colly also played really well and Bell played really fluently. Bat as long as we can tomorrow and then see if we can get SA in trouble. They key will be Swann, if he bowls well and we have a 150plus lead then we could be in business.


Bat as long as we can on Day 4 with the light being offered unusually early?

Shouldn't we be putting them in 20 minutes before lunch (hopefully with a lead of around 200...) if we need to bat last?






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