Collingwood gone for 50

Eng 221/7

South Africa's total was pretty good but apart from the odd one keeping low the conditions have been ok for England and we should be doing better!!! The batsmen just do the same thing match in match out and thats do the hard work to get their innings going and then get out.

We have to pray somehow Broad and Swann and take us past 300 and hope we can whip them out for a very very low score.

It's all but over in truth though.

The batting fails yet again...i wonder which bowlers will get dropped for the next test then????

Shocking call for the Broad wicket, 35 seconds!!! No doubt the SA dressing room had watched a replay

Swann and Anderson showing some fight at least.

318-8 - 100 behind.

Great stuff from Swann & Anderson, we are at least back with a sniff.

Mind you, I won't fancy chasing anything more than 250 to win the match, especially as it seems our numbers 9&10 are the only pair with any batting nous...

It's scary the amount of times we rely on our lower order to rescue matches for us. The top 6 need to take a long hard look at themselves really. Good job we got an early wicket, need to hope we get some quick wickets in the morning.

I just love your positive outlook

Great start today. Another couple of wickets and we're laughing

Well the wickets looks to have dried up. We really had them on the back foot this morning but they're getting control back with this partnership.

We don't want to be chasing more then 250 i'd say. I suppose we'd still be in with a sniff at 280-300 but it's a very very big as with the pressure that would be on and the fact that our batsmen don't seem able to concentrate their way past 30's, 40's and 50's.

I don't think I'm being negative, just stating facts, as is being backed up, not only in this test, but also over the last few years when we have been without Flintoff.

We don't have a Warne/McGrath style pair of bowlers, thus we are currently allowing the South Africans to wriggle out of an uncomfortable position....similarly, yesterday our batsman were unable to dominate at any point, and we had to rely on our tail enders to bail us out...Unfortunately, this cannot happen every time and ultimately we will be found out more often than not.