Not long, but that's the problem.

We haven't had chance to get a settled back four. An unsettled back four, with players playing out of position, especially putting CM at CB should in reality make us more exposed, and give the chance for us to conceed more goals.

I don't think we've played the same back 5 in two/three consecutive games all season.

Friedel and Given are the best keepers in the Prem IMO.

So 4 players who have played together for 3 or 4 years dont have a better understanding of each other's game than players who have just arrived at the club a la Johnson, That greek bloke, Insua etc etc.

I cant believe how many people rate Glen Johnson

Friedel has been the best keeper around for quite some time. I just wish Liverpool would've kept him on or he signed for another big club.

The names i mentioned have been in the team for quite some time now. Go back 3 years i'd say and they're all there in the team apart from Carrick. Even Evans was in the squad back then.

He was at Sunderland... prior to that he wasn't near it as Pique was the back up defender or Silvestre, Brown, O'Shea.

God know's how these players cope with international call-ups.

I thought you mentioned the new lads because you were talking about an unsettled back 4, that's the reason I mentioned all of them that'd played at the back this season for us.

On loan for 6months was it? Still was in the squad before that.