Not been on here for a while.I see ST CONROY is still trying to convince people that Rodgers is an elite QB but has he admitted that he was wrong about McDaniels ?

A) Rodgers is elite

B) I was wrong about the Broncos. They are better than I though and I've said that. I'm not wrong about McDaniels, whatever the record they get he will always be an idiot for running his franchise QB out of town for a vastly inferior QB who has a rubbish arm.

Very good I agree and will be elite but he isn't now, hasnt even won a playoff game.

Not very good, eliite. Out of interst why do you place Romo above him who IIRC also hasn't won a play-off game? Bearing in mind Rodgers hasn't had the chance to.

Hes led team to division titles and winning records.

Then proceeded to blow it in December/January when the pressure builds.

team records aren't indicative of a better player. Chris Johnson at the Titans is the main reason they are improving and have a decent record. Similarly with Rodgers last year, without him we would have a significantly worse record. He can't be punished because he had a worse team around him than the other guys have.

When we win it this year i'm sure that still wouldn't be enough for him to be considered elite.

The team he had had just been to a conference championship game?

They have been terrible though this year.

Going from a top defence to poor. No pressure on QB's and are 32nd (possibly 31st) against the pass.

LeDale White not being used as much.

I shocked myself at how bad I was at this last week! Ah well, lets give it a whirl

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Arizona

I was referring to Rodgers having inherited a team that had been to a conf champ.