Mild Rover wrote:You've been keeping your powder dry.
There isn't even any evidence that your assessment is accurate. The RFL and fans generally want better facilities. See Wakey and Salford's efforts to build new stadia. Look at the upturn in support after Hull's move to the KC. Aim high (especially if you can persuade someone else to help foot the bill), but have a plan B (ie cutting costs).
Setting aside the franchise criterion and trying look at your question dispassionately - do Rovers need the new the North Stand? Certainly better facilities would be very desirable, but the issue of capacity is valid. Will better facilities bring in more fans rather than just making the existing ones more comfortable? I can't see a massive upturn in away support as it is the journey which is a turn off for many I suspect. Certainly there is a shortage of available covered seating with an unobstructed view. The effect of the new east stand extension will be interesting, but won't be very informative in that respect. There is just no way of knowing without building it.
To put the losses into a different context. Rovers spend near the cap. Knock £200k of the wage bill and they'd still be competitive. If you can then get just £30 more from each existing, regularly-attending fan each year (about 60p/week), you are at break-even. There is potential to improve the merchandizing and retail side of things. If trimming the squad budget for a couple of years to invest in the business, as helpful Hull fans have selflessly suggested, that'd be fine by me. Difficult to balance on a 3 year license, but it used to be one year at a time, so can't complain. Self-funding major stadium improvements is always going to be a big ask without a strong commercial case, but if everybody else finds 'partners' Rovers need to too.
Were rovers near the cap last year? There have been contract increases for a number of players, 3 new players in on lower end contracts plus clinton's imminent arrival on a fair wedge. That all in must be £250k ish. Do you think the players who have left were on that much?
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"Hudgell says he took the decision to publicly talk about KR's financial plight in a bid to highlight the need to develop Craven Park"
Nowt to do with Look North's feature, then? He'll be citing image rights as a reason not to file accounts next, oh, hang on...
If Rovers are trying to strong-arm them into giving them some money, the council should consider that if there was a compelling business case for the ground extensions, the funding woud have been forthcoming already in line with the 2008 franchise application and you would be kicking off 2010 in a 14,000 stadium.
They would need to consider that if East Hull is so deprived of "facilities" whether they could be provided at a better, more accessible, more cost-effective alternative location. Investing in a stand at Craven Park wouldn't provide many financial benefits to the local community other than a few short term building jobs and a handful of back office staff if demand picked up a bit, plus maybe pub landlords would see an upside.
Joined: Aug 24 2005 Posts: 15807 Location: East Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:"Hudgell says he took the decision to publicly talk about KR's financial plight in a bid to highlight the need to develop Craven Park"
Nowt to do with Look North's feature, then? He'll be citing image rights as a reason not to file accounts next, oh, hang on...
If Rovers are trying to strong-arm them into giving them some money, the council should consider that if there was a compelling business case for the ground extensions, the funding woud have been forthcoming already in line with the 2008 franchise application and you would be kicking off 2010 in a 14,000 stadium.
They would need to consider that if East Hull is so deprived of "facilities" whether they could be provided at a better, more accessible, more cost-effective alternative location. Investing in a stand at Craven Park wouldn't provide many financial benefits to the local community other than a few short term building jobs and a handful of back office staff if demand picked up a bit, plus maybe pub landlords would see an upside.
Oh do be quiet.
"The Mail understands..." NOTHING!
[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. [/quote]
Sounds to me like Grudge is getting more and more hysterical. The bleat to the Sun last week didn't bring the council running to upend the Guildhall coffers into Rovers' bottomless pit, so he's now turning up the gas in the local rag.
Parasol, thought to be their main backer, via Crossland, appear to have downgraded their sponsorship from "main club sponsor" :
Sounds to me like Grudge is getting more and more hysterical. The bleat to the Sun last week didn't bring the council running to upend the Guildhall coffers into Rovers' bottomless pit, so he's now turning up the gas in the local rag.
Parasol, thought to be their main backer, via Crossland, appear to have downgraded their sponsorship from "main club sponsor" :
Post subject: Re: "who knows what the next 2 or 3 years has in store ?"
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:19 pm
Roofs
Club Coach
Joined: Aug 24 2005 Posts: 15807 Location: East Hull
WormInHand wrote:Sounds to me like Grudge is getting more and more hysterical. The bleat to the Sun last week didn't bring the council running to upend the Guildhall coffers into Rovers' bottomless pit, so he's now turning up the gas in the local rag.
Parasol, thought to be their main backer, via Crossland, appear to have downgraded their sponsorship from "main club sponsor" :
Is this a step down, again? Hence Grudge's seeming desperation?
Nah, gotta look at it from another angle.
WormInHand wrote:Sounds to me like Grudge is getting more and more hysterical. The bleat to the Sun last week didn't bring the council running to upend the Guildhall coffers into Rovers' bottomless pit, so he's now turning up the gas in the local rag.
Parasol, thought to be their main backer, via Crossland, appear to have downgraded their sponsorship from "main club sponsor" :
Post subject: Re: "who knows what the next 2 or 3 years has in store ?"
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:38 pm
Vicenzo
Club Coach
Joined: Jul 31 2005 Posts: 1802
Jake the Peg wrote:People who lend money in "wanting it paying back at a reasonable rate of return and over an affordable period" shocker.
What makes you doubt Hull FC's shareholder's intentions?
Nothing. I was pointing out that however you dress it up it is a debt and has to be paid back. As you so rightly point out they are getting interest on their loans.
Vicenzo wrote:So when Hull SL pay an annual charge to the SMC plus a percentage above a certain attendance what do you call it, a charitable donation perhaps?
I hope you get off to a good start this season. I started this thread as I feel as a neutral that Mr Hudgell is getting ready to apportion blame for when it may/may not go a bit wrong. Why is he asking what the next 2-3 years has in store , IF Jimmy the Ruler was coming out with this I would be highly suspicious , wouldn't you ?
Oh my lord that is the best gag since Monty Python.
You wouldn't know 'Neutral' with regard to HKR if it poked you up the booty.
I hope you get off to a good start this season. I started this thread as I feel as a neutral that Mr Hudgell is getting ready to apportion blame for when it may/may not go a bit wrong. Why is he asking what the next 2-3 years has in store , IF Jimmy the Ruler was coming out with this I would be highly suspicious , wouldn't you ?
Oh my lord that is the best gag since Monty Python.
You wouldn't know 'Neutral' with regard to HKR if it poked you up the booty.
Joined: Aug 14 2005 Posts: 14302 Location: On the Death Star Awaiting Luke.
berrigans bitch wrote::lol:
Who told you the neighbours aunty who knows the uncle of a girl who is going out with a boy of one of the people's friend who attended this alleged meeting
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