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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:44 pm 
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The optimist wrote:The dream 17 would be

1) Fitzy
2) McGilvary
3)Talau
4)Tyer
5)Broughton
6)Holsworth
7) Rachford
8)Cashmere
9)J Smith
10)Boyle
11)Adamson
12)Parker
13)Swain

14)Big PHIL
15)M Smith
16)Sidlow
17)Gibson

But we'll probably end up with:

1-8 the same
9)Alker
10)Parker
11)Adamson
12)Sibbit
13)Swain

14)Big Phil
15)Jewitt
16)Littler
17)J Smith




Difficult to say until the friendlies are out of the way, then ill decide


no place for henry?






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Absolutely no idea ! the 17 that play the best :?
In a strange way because it's not obvious the younger squad may work this season , last season with the injuries and the fringe members of the squad too inexperienced to truly hold a place the squad picked itself
Now?

Full Back
Fitzpatrick, ( +Henry , Broughton , Gibson , Ratchford )
Winger
Mcgilvray , Tyrer (+ Broughton , Gibson , Henry)
Centre Backs
Talau , Henry, Gibson, Broughton, Littler ( +Smith M, Tyrer, )
Half Backs
Holdsworth, Smith J, Smith M, Ratchford , Palfrey , Sneyd
Prop Forward
Cashmere, Leuluai, Jewitt, Boyle, ( + Sidlow, Parker )
Hooker
Alker ( + Smith J, Holdsworth )
2nd Row
Adamson, Sidlow, Sibbett, Parker , Ben Wood ( + Alker , Littler, Spencer )
Loose Forward
Swain , Spencer ( + Holdsworth , Smith J , Adamson )

Tyrer, M Smith , Broughton** , Gibson & Boyle all have decent SL experience , Holdsworth has played 70 NRL Games , (** If we have signed him on ?? )
Our Younger players , Adamson , Jewitt, Sidlow, Mcgilvray & Spencer now have more SL experience , you also have a reasonable spread of players in every position + players who can cover utility roles for injuries.
Ratchford , M Smith , Tyrer, Holdsworth all Kick .
All in all looks like they've tried to spend what funds they had as wisely as possible .






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This is a difficult one.

I think the only certainties are:

Henry and Talau (if fit) - in the 3/4 line
Ratchford - in halves
Cashmere & LeuLuai (off the bench again) - two of be props
Adamson & Swain - back row
Alker - starting hooker

I would like to see someone else given a chance at hooker as we are seriously lacking any creativity from the play the ball. I know the Alker fans out there will disagree, but when he's on the pitch, not playing hooker, he has a habit of getting in the way at scrum half. Don't care whether it's Fitzy, J Smith, M Smith or Holdsworth, but we need something extra at hooker. Our play the ball has been painfully slow for too many years now.

Personally I'd like to see:

1) Henry - Pretty safe under high ball
2) McGilivary - earnt his place last year
3) Talau - When fit is one of the few true quality players we have
4) Tyrer - Tracked him fir long enough, so he must have something
5) Gibson - Lets hope he shows his early promise
6) Ratchford - Has to deal with the pressure of exectation this year
7) Matty Smith - did better than alright for Celtic last year
8 ) Cashmere - Glad to see we still have this guy
9) Alker - Think he needs replacing, but nobody else tackles like this guy and if we still need his defensive qualities then he has to play
10) Boyle - would like to go for LULU, but we'll need at least one of LULU/Ray on the pitch through out the game
11) Adamson - By far our best player last season, if he develops by the same extent this coming season we'll have one hell of player on our side
12) Swain - Would like to see a more creative 13, so he gets a move
13) Holdsworth - Not seen anything of this guy, but I want to believe he's not just here to make up the numbers

14) J. Smith - showed some class last year, if he can produce more consistantly the team will go well
15) Parker - really respect this guy, maybe he doesn't do anything special, but he's one hell of hardworking honest player with lots of experience.
16) Leuluai - at his best is our most destructive player
17) Sidlow - think he has more potential than Jewitt

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Just noticed only one person has Littler in their first seventeen. I've always respected him, but he has never been SL quality, either in attack, doesn't know how to pass let alone when, or in defence, his flank has always leaked tries. That said it's hard not to like him, he's like the old chair that's been sat in your living room for a long time, you can't imagine a time without it and you would miss it were it gone.

What's the betting he'll be in the 17 next year?

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H0LTY wrote:no place for henry?


Good point, Forgot about Henry :shock:, Henry on the wing as imo he is a better winger than centre as when he played on the wing he certainly shoured up that side of the field.

But people some say henry actually played the whole season on the wrong side of the field from his natural position, so that would be talau centre henry wing

I thing its better having that balance as when we attack we can go both ways making other teams think a bit more






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LincolnDEVILSFan wrote:Just noticed only one person has Littler in their first seventeen. I've always respected him, but he has never been SL quality, either in attack, doesn't know how to pass let alone when, or in defence, his flank has always leaked tries. That said it's hard not to like him, he's like the old chair that's been sat in your living room for a long time, you can't imagine a time without it and you would miss it were it gone.

What's the betting he'll be in the 17 next year?


He will be in the 17 as Smc thinks he can cover positions in both the forwards and backs, i blow hot and cold with littler i feel we need a better quality of strike centre to move on he isnt a 2nd row, he is all effort but i want that bit of class with age he has lost that 1/2 yard that makes all the difference but the stats dont lie im sure he was 3rd top metre maker last season, he might have lost a yard but he's gained 2 in his head which is a real strainge thing to say about littler but he uses his head more with age so these days he's more of a plodder than a flyier






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The optimist wrote:He will be in the 17 as Smc thinks he can cover positions in both the forwards and backs, i blow hot and cold with littler i feel we need a better quality of strike centre to move on he isnt a 2nd row, he is all effort but i want that bit of class with age he has lost that 1/2 yard that makes all the difference but the stats dont lie im sure he was 3rd top metre maker last season, he might have lost a yard but he's gained 2 in his head which is a real strainge thing to say about littler but he uses his head more with age so these days he's more of a plodder than a flyier


Well on the Super League website the top meter four are listed as Cashmere, LULU, Wilshire and Swain. Would agree with you that he shouldn't be covering the forwards though, as we have far better backrow forwards to pick from. When they have been fit we've generally had better centres too.

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LincolnDEVILSFan wrote:Well on the Super League website the top meter four are listed as Cashmere, LULU, Wilshire and Swain. Would agree with you that he shouldn't be covering the forwards though, as we have far better backrow forwards to pick from. When they have been fit we've generally had better centres too.


i stand corrected :D, he's consistant n rarely injured that could be a reason he is in the 17 all the time






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The optimist wrote:i stand corrected :D, he's consistant n rarely injured that could be a reason he is in the 17 all the time


He has been high up in the past, but like you said in earlier post, he's starting to lose a yard of pace now. I've been openly critical of littler in the past, the problem now is that he's been such a loyal servant to the club you just can't leave him out. The club really has to move on though! Two more skillful and quicker centres are needed. We don't seem to have a great deal of luck keeping centres fit, McGuinness, Moule and now Talau. So I think he'll get his chance, just not in the pack.

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The optimist wrote:Difficult to say until the friendlies are out of the way, then ill decide


Didn't realise you were picking the team this year.






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