Uffa1964 wrote:Expanding the ground is fine but if they don't then get 10,000 every week it's more debt if they self fund it and another big nail in the coffin.
Fair point, is it a given that a ground extension means larger gates? I think it may lump some onto it but there may be a risk that they still dont get the 10k break even figure.
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Uffa1964 wrote:Expanding the ground is fine but if they don't then get 10,000 every week it's more debt if they self fund it and another big nail in the coffin.
Calling it "another big nail in the coffin" is imho a really rather large exaggeration. I'm not aware we've even decided on a cremation or burial yet as far as us going down the pan.
Our average over the last couple of seasons has been around the 8.5k mark, I don't think we need to target away support (see you lot, state of the art reasonably priced easy to get to stadium and still hardly anyone from the wrong side of the Pennines can be bothered to come), I think with more seats, which is what the new North would give us we would easily get another 1500 on a regular basis. Unfortunately we don't have access to £6m or whatever it would cost, so we're going to have to further extend the East and keep on gradually building from there.
It does look as though we're realistically heading towards a couple of years of consolodation where the biggest advances will probably be off field and therefore not all that visible. I'm in the camp that's over joyed to see the level of returning and new (as long as they don't stand in my spot!) fans that we've attracted over the last few seasons, but will they be happy and still come through the gates if we finish 6th and 8th and go out in the first round of the play offs?
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pmh wrote:Calling it "another big nail in the coffin" is imho a really rather large exaggeration. I'm not aware we've even decided on a cremation or burial yet as far as us going down the pan.
Our average over the last couple of seasons has been around the 8.5k mark, I don't think we need to target away support (see you lot, state of the art reasonably priced easy to get to stadium and still hardly anyone from the wrong side of the Pennines can be bothered to come), I think with more seats, which is what the new North would give us we would easily get another 1500 on a regular basis. Unfortunately we don't have access to £6m or whatever it would cost, so we're going to have to further extend the East and keep on gradually building from there.
It does look as though we're realistically heading towards a couple of years of consolodation where the biggest advances will probably be off field and therefore not all that visible. I'm in the camp that's over joyed to see the level of returning and new (as long as they don't stand in my spot!) fans that we've attracted over the last few seasons, but will they be happy and still come through the gates if we finish 6th and 8th and go out in the first round of the play offs?
You can't keep losing money year in and year out at the rate you are doing though. Spending more money you don't have on expanding your ground is a huge risk if you don't then get the magic 10,000. External funding if there's any around would be the obvious answer. My big worry would be that historically you have rarely averaged 10,000 for a season.
People only become accountants because they lack the charisma to become undertakers.
At present; 7800/8000 home support, 300/500 away. Average gate = 8200/8500.
To top 10000; Still same away support (aint gonna change. Someone said it KC cant attract em so we cant).
Cut Season tickets by a 3rd, adjust gameday tickets the same and South stand a fiver for every game (even FC)= 10000 home supporters. Revenue lost in dropping passes negated by more food/drink/programmes/shirts sold etc .
blakeysrobin wrote:At present; 7800/8000 home support, 300/500 away. Average gate = 8200/8500.
To top 10000; Still same away support (aint gonna change. Someone said it KC cant attract em so we cant). Cut Season tickets by a 3rd, adjust gameday tickets the same and South stand a fiver for every game (even FC)= 10000 home supporters. Revenue lost in dropping passes negated by more food/drink/programmes/shirts sold etc .
To be fair you can buy a Season Ticket with around 25% discount as it is..........so long as you pay £60 to join Club Rovers.
blakeysrobin wrote:At present; 7800/8000 home support, 300/500 away. Average gate = 8200/8500.
To top 10000; Still same away support (aint gonna change. Someone said it KC cant attract em so we cant). Cut Season tickets by a 3rd, adjust gameday tickets the same and South stand a fiver for every game (even FC)= 10000 home supporters. Revenue lost in dropping passes negated by more food/drink/programmes/shirts sold etc .
So basically you're looking for 1500 people every week who eat lots of hot dogs and pies, drink lots of beverages, like reading and fill their wardrobes with HKR shirts?
People only become accountants because they lack the charisma to become undertakers.
Uffa1964 wrote:So basically you're looking for 1500 people every week who eat lots of hot dogs and pies, drink lots of beverages, like reading and fill their wardrobes with HKR shirts?
Convert half the FC fans on this forum everyday and we're laughing.
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