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Taking the US as a base model again

Since the death penalty was reinstated in the U.S. in 1976, 1,020 men and women have been executed, with more than one-third--362--put to death in Texas.

Although more than 100 people have been released from Death Row in the U.S. during that time, no government authority has concluded that an innocent person was executed.

Also, despite having the death penalty in a fair percentage of the states they still have a much higher (approx 4x) murder rate per capita

and 0% re-offenders

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GraftonRed wrote:Taking the US as a base model again

Since the death penalty was reinstated in the U.S. in 1976, 1,020 men and women have been executed, with more than one-third--362--put to death in Texas.

Although more than 100 people have been released from Death Row in the U.S. during that time, no government authority has concluded that an innocent person was executed.

Also, despite having the death penalty in a fair percentage of the states they still have a much higher (approx 4x) murder rate per capita

and 0% re-offenders


So it's not a deterrent then?

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cod'ead wrote:So it's not a deterrent then?

It's just revenge


Is that a bad thing? (to play devlis advocate)

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Neil HFC wrote:They have different degrees which relate, in part, to premeditaion and such like, not different degrees of guilt or proof.

I'ts generally been shown that the whole life (good term huh ;)) costs of imprisonment vs capital punishment show a very signifigant saving to the life in prison sentances (again taking the US as a base model).


I'd be interested to see the costings that you talk about? Im not sure how spending 10 years on death row and then been killed could be more expensive than 40 years in prison with a better standard of living than 30-40% of law abiding people on the outside?

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Big Dave T wrote: There was the case recently of the hacker who wanted to face trial in the uk cos he would get 10 years but in america he would have got 100 years.


:shock:

100 years for been a hacker seems a bit harsh! What did he hack..people to death? :D

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knocker norton wrote::shock:

100 years for been a hacker seems a bit harsh! What did he hack..people to death? :D


CIA confidential information or something like that i think. Classed as terrorism too i believe.

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Big Dave T wrote:CIA confidential information or something like that i think. Classed as terrorism too i believe.


Surprised Microsoft didnt offer him a 6 figure salary then. :D

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knocker norton wrote:Surprised Microsoft didnt offer him a 6 figure salary then. :D


:lol: Surely with the employment legislation been put in place rapidly to support home working more there may soon be the drive to promote prison-working? :lol:

Surprised no prisoners have tried taking legal action for not been allowed to work.

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Big Dave T wrote::lol: Surely with the employment legislation been put in place rapidly to support home working more there may soon be the drive to promote prison-working? :lol:

Surprised no prisoners have tried taking legal action for not been allowed to work.


Wouldnt be surprised if that happened and i wouldnt be surprised if they won the right either! :shock:

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knocker norton wrote:Wouldnt be surprised if that happened and i wouldnt be surprised if they won the right either! :shock:


See the other thread about human rights of prisoners. :D

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