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Phil O'Stein wrote:The death penalty would do very little, if none, to reduce the crimes in which the death penalty would be envoked.
People argue it would be a deterrant but the type of person who commits a sick act agaisnt a child or commits a sadistic murder is far from a normal, rational thinking person. Ergo they would be acting on a manifestation of thier illness/warpedness and with little regard for any consequences.
The crimes would still be commit but the public would be gratified by the fact they have been executed.
Both sides of the argument bring in favourable statistics to support their claims, I only know one fact, it prevents re-offending 100%
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Getting back to the programme, did anyone else think that the Home Secretary bore more than a passing resemblance to Sun hack Jane Moore?
I doubt that was purely happenstance
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rover49 wrote:Both sides of the argument bring in favourable statistics to support their claims, I only know one fact, it prevents re-offending 100%
Yup, and on ocassion it will stop people who haven't commited any crime having the chance to do anything else atall. Or are they acceptable colateral losses?
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rover49 wrote:Save your sympathy for the 'poor' bloke she killed.
Try looking up the case before commenting
Blakely was anything but a poor bloke
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Just as extra locks on you doors wont stop a determined burgler, the death penalty wont stop a determined murderer.
The death penalty should not be looked on as a deterent but as THE punishment for the most terrible of crimes...murder...
Lets just take Ian Huntley again, what he did was the worst crime anyone could think of...he gained the trust of those two little girls, lured them to his house and MURDERED them and then dumped their two lifeless bodies in a ditch to rot, i hate to think what those girls went through in their final moments, fighting to save each other, who knows, but DNA evidence convicted this piece of ####.
Anybody who thinks this animal deserves the best medical treatment and to be sat in a cell with all mod cons that some people can only dream of owning, is beyond me, as is making out people wanting the death penalty for people like him to be just as bad as him. I dare say as well, going by some peoples posts they would feel vindicated in their views if in say 15 yrs huntley was given the all clear to resume a normal life in society and did so without any further "problems".............................as long he didn't get moved next door to them.
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Ian P wrote:Try looking up the case before commenting
Blakely was anything but a poor bloke
Ah, so Ruth Ellis didn't deserve to hang for taken a human life, but Blakeley deserved to die for being a $hit. Interesting concept.
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Havent read this post all the way through so dont know if it's already been mentioned, but, I read a truly fantastic story in the paper the other day documenting the trial of a peodophile in Suadi who had been abducting children aged between 3 and 7 and abusing then murdering them, leaving one child to die of dehydration in the desert.
The judge decided that the offender was to be beheaded then to show that this inhuman behaviour will not be tollerated they will take his headless corpse and nail it to a cross in the city square. This punishment was to take place publicly, with a large cheering crowd.
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GraftonRed wrote:Just as extra locks on you doors wont stop a determined burgler, the death penalty wont stop a determined murderer. The death penalty should not be looked on as a deterent but as THE punishment for the most terrible of crimes...murder... Lets just take Ian Huntley again, what he did was the worst crime anyone could think of...he gained the trust of those two little girls, lured them to his house and MURDERED them and then dumped their two lifeless bodies in a ditch to rot, i hate to think what those girls went through in their final moments, fighting to save each other, who knows, but DNA evidence convicted this piece of ####. Anybody who thinks this animal deserves the best medical treatment and to be sat in a cell with all mod cons that some people can only dream of owning, is beyond me, as is making out people wanting the death penalty for people like him to be just as bad as him. I dare say as well, going by some peoples posts they would feel vindicated in their views if in say 15 yrs huntley was given the all clear to resume a normal life in society and did so without any further "problems".............................as long he didn't get moved next door to them.
Ian Huntley has now attempted suicide on 3 occasions since being locked up. He will never be released we know it and he knows it. He has a lifetime of anguish to contemplate what he has done.
Offer him the death sentence and he would thank you.
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His Bobness wrote:Ian Huntley has now attempted suicide on 3 occasions since being locked up. He will never be released we know it and he knows it. He has a lifetime of anguish to contemplate what he has done.
Offer him the death sentence and he would thank you.
Careful, you're showing wooly liberal tendancies by not demanding he be publicly executed and then dragged round the streets to everyone can mickey on him.
Does anyone have an opinion on what should be done regarding the possible execution/murder of those wrongly convicted, I asked earlier but it seems to have been ignored in the general 'kill em all kneejerkery.
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Why not leave a razor blade and rope in the cell of every convicted murderer and phaedophile and if they choose to help the tax payer and top themselves it will save all the dogooders breath in telling the rest of us that their horrendous crimes were caused by a bad upbringing and other related sh!te.
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