NickyKiss wrote:To improve the game long term a rule brought in that players brought through your system didn't count fully on the salary cap would help a great deal and would increase the player pool we'd have to choose from massively.
Long term though we have to improve our own compatition and stop letting the 'have nots' make the rules.
It is pointless sending individuals to play in the NRL. To beat Australia SL needs to be played at the same level on a weekly basis. See NZ as an example, by the NZ eligible individuals playing at the same intensity as the Australian players, collectively they are the better team.
I don't know what the answer is, but placing the problem squarely on the SC is naive to say the least.
Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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getdownmonkeyman wrote:It is pointless sending individuals to play in the NRL. To beat Australia SL needs to be played at the same level on a weekly basis. See NZ as an example, by the NZ eligible individuals playing at the same intensity as the Australian players, collectively they are the better team.
I don't know what the answer is, but placing the problem squarely on the SC is naive to say the least.
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getdownmonkeyman wrote:It is pointless sending individuals to play in the NRL. To beat Australia SL needs to be played at the same level on a weekly basis. See NZ as an example, by the NZ eligible individuals playing at the same intensity as the Australian players, collectively they are the better team.
I don't know what the answer is, but placing the problem squarely on the SC is naive to say the least.
So whats the answer, an English team in the NRL?
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Steve Ella's Beard wrote:Perhaps you should stop being an offensive gimp and realise that Cruncher was only trying to make a point that his best years were played in the NRL, you're very foolish if you think that's not the case.
There always seems to be some Warrington fan floating around on here, ready to come charging in if he thinks his club is in any way being disrespected. I'm not quite sure what he expects, this being a Wigan forum.
But you're right SEB, it may surprise the average Warrington fan but there are more important issues here than whatever happens to be going on down at their sardine tin stadium.
MattyB wrote:So whats the answer, an English team in the NRL?
As I have said, I don't know the answer. I do have a theory that we copy the NRL techniques, whilst not evolving our own, specifically looking to other sports. See how Nathan Brown dragged Huddersfield a fair few places forward, I would wager some SL coaches will copy elements of what he has done, but, undoubtedly, these techniques will be outdated in the forthcoming NRL season.
I guess it all comes down to us all wanting instant success at club level, rather than evolving the game as a whole.
Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
getdownmonkeyman wrote:As I have said, I don't know the answer. I do have a theory that we copy the NRL techniques, whilst not evolving our own, specifically looking to other sports. See how Nathan Brown dragged Huddersfield a fair few places forward, I would wager some SL coaches will copy elements of what he has done, but, undoubtedly, these techniques will be outdated in the forthcoming NRL season.
I guess it all comes down to us all wanting instant success at club level, rather than evolving the game as a whole.
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So from the Shaun Wane interview, on the official website, where he states we are going with the same squad as last season, can we presume Phil Bailey has signed a contract?
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cadoo wrote:So from the Shaun Wane interview, on the official website, where he states we are going with the same squad as last season, can we presume Phil Bailey has signed a contract?
Wane said he had on the radio interview of a few weeks back yet there has been no official conformation one way or the other.
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cadoo wrote:So from the Shaun Wane interview, on the official website, where he states we are going with the same squad as last season, can we presume Phil Bailey has signed a contract?
The interview is from a month ago anyway and has just been re-posted on the official site so things may have changed from then.
Ian Lenagan has said we may have room for one or two experienced players if the right ones become available but he said it was an outside chance we'd bring anybody in before the start of next season.
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There always seems to be some Warrington fan floating around on here, ready to come charging in if he thinks his club is in any way being disrespected. I'm not quite sure what he expects, this being a Wigan forum.
