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The Wizard wrote:Rafa is sh*t.He needs to go for us to move forward. He cannot justify playing players like Voronin, he is absolute dog turd!!


Yeah would of been nice to replace him with a £10m back up forward but..no money.


I am tired of this Rafa is blah blah bolllocks why is he shhit? who should replace him? Id love an answer to that.






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J.T wrote:Cascarino?


Nah. He was just a big donkey who we bought. I can't remember how much we paid for him, but I doubt it was that much.

Robert Fleck though was a club record signing at the time. He was a signing that virtually every Chelsea supporter wanted, and he was going to be the guy to move us forward.

But he was 5hite, Total and utter 5hite.

At that time we definitely didn't have the money to spend, so when we spent big we really felt it if the signing turned bad. Fleck was a prime example of this.

Another 5hitty signing was Alan Dickens from West Ham. At the time we bought him I think he was regarded as on a similar level to Paul Ince, and we paid a similar fee for him. Ince went on to become a top player, Dickens dissapeared off the face of the earth.

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Wire_85 wrote:Yeah would of been nice to replace him with a £10m back up forward but..no money.


I am tired of this Rafa is blah blah bolllocks why is he shhit? who should replace him? Id love an answer to that.


A backup forward like say Robbie Keane? Or maybe Peter Crouch? I'm assuming N'gog and Voronin are better than these seen as Rafa showed them the door.

I think my posts show why I think Rafa is poop. As for a new manager i don't know but it's a job that would attract a lot of interest with money or without. Mancini?

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:£39.9mil+£25.6mil+£15.6mil = £81.1mil and thats not counting his first season of £25mil. If he hasn't improved Liverpool sufficiently in those first 4 years then that's just poor. It's not like he inherited a shocking team is it really


Have to seen the squad line up he inherited?

I don't go off "transferleague" rightly or wrong and its not £25Mill in his first season as he didnt buy Cisse for 14m






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El Pac Carnegie wrote:A backup forward like say Robbie Keane? Or maybe Peter Crouch? I'm assuming N'gog and Voronin are better than these seen as Rafa showed them the door.

I think my posts show why I think Rafa is poop. As for a new manager i don't know but it's a job that would attract a lot of interest with money or without. Mancini?


Keane was sold because it didnt work out and it wasn't his signing little did he know he would get the money to replace him, Crouch was sold because he wanted first team football and at a profit the money from that went to buying...Keane

Rafa is poop? back it up Mr two teams

2004/05: Finished 5th – 58 pts
2005/06: Finished 3rd – 82 pts
2006/07: Finished 3rd – 68 pts
2007/08: Finished 4th – 76 pts
2008/09: Finished 2nd – 86 pts

Along with CL final wins CL finals, Fa cup wins, LC finals numerous games in the latter stage of the CL oh and along with that little bit of work at Valencia

Hes poop?

Okay






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Wire_85 wrote:Have to seen the squad line up he inherited?

I don't go off "transferleague" rightly or wrong and its not £25Mill in his first season as he didnt buy Cisse for 14m


All I know is that in 03/04 Liverpool finished 4th. Either Houllier was a genius or that's not as bad a team as your making out. That £14Million was from Benitez 1st season. I didn't count the 04/05 transfers in my £81.1mil calculation thats for seasons 05/06(£25.6mil), 06/07(£15.6mil) and 07/08(£39.9mil). These are all net spends and produce the £81.1mil I stated WITHOUT the £25mil that Rafa did or didn't spend in his first season.

Having looked at the squad from 04/05 it's not exactly a disaster is it? Theres quite a few good players in it. Gerrard, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise and Alonso to name 5.

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:All I know is that in 03/04 Liverpool finished 4th. Either Houllier was a genius or that's not as bad a team as your making out. That £14Million was from Benitez 1st season. I didn't count the 04/05 transfers in my £81.1mil calculation thats for seasons 05/06(£25.6mil), 06/07(£15.6mil) and 07/08(£39.9mil). These are all net spends and produce the £81.1mil I stated WITHOUT the £25mil that Rafa did or didn't spend in his first season.

Having looked at the squad from 04/05 it's not exactly a disaster is it? Theres quite a few good players in it. Gerrard, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise and Alonso to name 5.


Alonso was a Rafa signing Riise less said the better

Hardly setting the world on fire.






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Wire_85 wrote:Keane was sold because it didnt work out and it wasn't his signing little did he know he would get the money to replace him, Crouch was sold because he wanted first team football and at a profit the money from that went to buying...Keane

Rafa is poop? back it up Mr two teams

2004/05: Finished 5th – 58 pts
2005/06: Finished 3rd – 82 pts
2006/07: Finished 3rd – 68 pts
2007/08: Finished 4th – 76 pts
2008/09: Finished 2nd – 86 pts

Along with CL final wins CL finals, Fa cup wins, LC finals numerous games in the latter stage of the CL oh and along with that little bit of work at Valencia

Hes poop?

Okay


Mr Two teams? :lol: ok then.

Wasn't Rafa bought in to win the league title? Why was Robbie Keane signed a week before Crouch left? As for his title wins at Valencia, he inherited a stonker of a team and won the title for em. Good for him, i'm not seeing how this is relevant to Liverpool though? I know what i was doing 8 years ago means squat to my work now


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Wire_85 wrote:Alonso was a Rafa signing Riise less said the better

Hardly setting the world on fire.


Riise was poop? Why did he play over 200 times for your lot? And i see he has just scored for Roma, he must be horrendous :lol:

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:Riise was poop? Why did he play over 200 times for your lot? And i see he has just scored for Roma, he must be horrendous :lol:


Latter stages he was shocking

I know hes scored shame good for my bets






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