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Danny 2 wrote:will make it alot easier if we had a new stadium

oh but then again i dont go do i :roll:


Not really.

See Arsenal, moved from Highbury to 60k sell outs every week at the Emirates, it'll be the same at Liverpool, so it won't be any easy, in fact it'll probably be harder with a new stadium.

With the iPhone you could stand outside I guess and say you're there. :wink:






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El Pac Carnegie wrote:Also i'd say Rafa selecting one of them at 30% shows how incredibly weak Liverpool are after their starting XI


Or just how good that player is.

If United needed to win a game to progress in the CL and Rooney was only 30% fit, he would play, no doubt about it.

Ferdinand, Vidic and Fletcher have all played all season without been fully fit. Fletcher won't be fully fit all season but will still play the majority of games and all of the big games.






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Wire_85 wrote:Yeah includes Cisse I get it as £228,976,000 spent £145,100,000 bought in

£16.6m a year he has spent around £7m in the last two seasons which is for me the reason we are starting to fall behind.

We can't pay £70,000 a week to players just for them to be on the bench we always can't go an buy £10m + players to add to the squad every season hes bought 5 players over £10m 6 if you include Keane (Parry signing) who was sold only for the money to go to RBS


Surely the 3 previous seasons of big spending were just for practice? Still keep defending him. Looks like Liverpool now settle for mediocrity than the glory of their past

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Nemanja wrote:Or just how good that player is.

If United needed to win a game to progress in the CL and Rooney was only 30% fit, he would play, no doubt about it.

Ferdinand, Vidic and Fletcher have all played all season without been fully fit. Fletcher won't be fully fit all season but will still play the majority of games and all of the big games.


But 30% fit? I'd seriously doubt he would play Rooney if he was that badly. The bench yes but starting i'd say no. Plus the main point i'm trying to make is that Utd have depth on the bench. Rooney out would move Owen into the starting lineup, Torres goes and you have Ngog and Voronin. Surely after 5 years Benitez should have a better all round squad?

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:Surely the 3 previous seasons of big spending were just for practice? Still keep defending him. Looks like Liverpool now settle for mediocrity than the glory of their past


What do you mean practice?

I defend him because up until now he has done an a great job why should I turn on him for having a bad period where nothing is going our way?






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Wire_85 wrote:What do you mean practice?

I defend him because up until now he has done an a great job why should I turn on him for having a bad period where nothing is going our way?


You chose to use the last 2 years of Rafa's spending to defend him. I was merely asking if the 3 previous where he spent a net of £80million counted? For a net of £80million surely the squad should of only needed slight tinkering to make a title push? £80million = 2-3 world class players Benitez inherited one and bought another what have they gained from the net £54million after the Torres capture? Who was a snip at that price

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:But 30% fit? I'd seriously doubt he would play Rooney if he was that badly. The bench yes but starting i'd say no. Plus the main point i'm trying to make is that Utd have depth on the bench. Rooney out would move Owen into the starting lineup, Torres goes and you have Ngog and Voronin. Surely after 5 years Benitez should have a better all round squad?


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El Pac Carnegie wrote:You chose to use the last 2 years of Rafa's spending to defend him. I was merely asking if the 3 previous where he spent a net of £80million counted? For a net of £80million surely the squad should of only needed slight tinkering to make a title push? £80million = 2-3 world class players Benitez inherited one and bought another what have they gained from the net £54million after the Torres capture? Who was a snip at that price


For the 3 previous seasons I get the net spend at around £64 Mil

Also he had to rebuild that team its not like he could just add players onto what we had he had to sell and buy new players and not at £30m ala your second team Man U who had 6 players players costing £14M+ against blackburn alone.






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Wire_85 wrote:For the 3 previous seasons I get the net spend at around £64 Mil

Also he had to rebuild that team its not like he could just add players onto what we had he had to sell and buy new players and not at £30m ala your second team Man U who had 6 players players costing £14M+ against blackburn alone.


Rafa is sh*t.He needs to go for us to move forward. He cannot justify playing players like Voronin, he is absolute dog turd!!

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£39.9mil+£25.6mil+£15.6mil = £81.1mil and thats not counting his first season of £25mil. If he hasn't improved Liverpool sufficiently in those first 4 years then that's just poor. It's not like he inherited a shocking team is it really

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