Dave K. wrote:So we are now comparing Fox to Offia, not even close.
Since Offia there have been far, far better wingers than Fox, off the top of my head I could name 20, who have scored better trys and where betetr players than Fox.
Personally I think it's a sad state of affairs looking at the current state of our backs for England, on paper we have the worst backs I have ever seen for England.
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A unknown superstar wrote:Wingers help the team hell of alot getting out of there own 20 with quick runs from dummy half, something Briscoe is arguably second to none at in SL. Obviously wingers have still got to be defensively sound ie tackling, defusing bombs. As already stated the game has come on hell of alot from when Offiah was playing the game just scoring tries. Wingers need more than a good try scoring ratio to their game.
Agreed. This is the reason why Fox was Rovers top metre maker in 2009. I have not seen a better scooter from DH all season. However, he is discouraged from doing this for England, as is T Briscoe. Tony Smith obviously doesn't like his wingers doing this to the same extent as Justin Morgan.
Dave K. wrote:So we are now comparing Fox to Offia, not even close.
Since Offia there have been far, far better wingers than Fox, off the top of my head I could name 20, who have scored better trys and where betetr players than Fox.
Personally I think it's a sad state of affairs looking at the current state of our backs for England, on paper we have the worst backs I have ever seen for England.
Think you need to re visit the England World Cup team of 2000 before making statements like that!
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Dave K. wrote:So we are now comparing Fox to Offia, not even close.
Since Offia there have been far, far better wingers than Fox, off the top of my head I could name 20, who have scored better trys and where betetr players than Fox.
Personally I think it's a sad state of affairs looking at the current state of our backs for England, on paper we have the worst backs I have ever seen for England.
In attack and speed ,maybe not, but there have been 100's of wingers since Offiah who can defend better than he ever could and had a bit of bravery about them. The two incidents I remember with him are the one in the Ashes test where he jumped into touch rather than tackle and the incident on Gladiators when he jumped off that platform before being hit with the stick.
He once broke clear in a game against us and slowed down just before the line and taunted the chasers to catch him, he $hit himself when one of our forwards confronted him and let his mates get in between.
He had no bottle
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rover49 wrote:In attack and speed ,maybe not, but there have been 100's of wingers since Offiah who can defend better than he ever could and had a bit of bravery about them. The two incidents I remember with him are the one in the Ashes test where he jumped into touch rather than tackle and the incident on Gladiators when he jumped off that platform before being hit with the stick.
He once broke clear in a game against us and slowed down just before the line and taunted the chasers to catch him, he $hit himself when one of our forwards confronted him and let his mates get in between.
He had no bottle
IIRC that was actually Tony Sullivan and Peter Sterling made the remark that it was a good job the ground had fencing otherwise he would have gone!
Thats if you are thinking of the ashes game at lang park?
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knocker norton wrote:IIRC that was actually Tony Sullivan and Peter Sterling made the remark that it was a good job the ground had fencing otherwise he would have gone!
Thats if you are thinking of the ashes game at lang park?
No, it was at Wembley and it was Offiah, I was in the stand right in front of it and the fans around us were stunned.
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knocker norton wrote:Must be a GB left winger thing then.
I doubt Fox (or your lad Briscoe) would do the same though, bit more heart in them.
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