Agree with most things said about Fox and Tom Briscoe but in my opinion they've both got a long way to go to match the standard of a fit Raynor from one or two years ago, he was a superb performer on the half chance and matched it in defence, had he been in that sort of form lately, the injuries haven't helped of course, he would have still been the obvious choice, in my opinion of course !
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fcexpat wrote:Agree with most things said about Fox and Tom Briscoe but in my opinion they've both got a long way to go to match the standard of a fit Raynor from one or two years ago, he was a superb performer on the half chance and matched it in defence, had he been in that sort of form lately, the injuries haven't helped of course, he would have still been the obvious choice, in my opinion of course !
I agree about"the crab" he would be a shoe in on past form.
but it's not about the past.
Foxy has been [along with Hall]the most consistent winger of this season .[ok that is the past for the pedants] T.S. has imho made a big mistake in putting a young player with massive potential in at the deep end ,his confidence could be shot to pieces especially if he has a good game tonight and is pitched in against the two teams that will target that naivety.
I hope i am wrong because talent like he undoubtedly is should be nurtured.
The best winger on the pitch last night was Pelo (even though Hall scored a great length of the field try) and a higher rate of mobility and work-rate from the wings will be needed.
The closest player/winger (in terms of style) England have to Pelo is Fox and I'd definitely play him against the Aussies & Kiwis even though he's been in poor form for a long while.
Tom Briscoe is a really strong, solid unit who I'd play in the centre in years to come. I even think he may end up playing second-row a few years down the line because he doesn't get shifted in the tackle.
Smith picking Myler above Tomkins was absolutely criminal cos Myler cannot control a game. I'd move Sinfield into the halves with McGuire and use an extra prop at loose-man.
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General Zod. wrote:The best winger on the pitch last night was Pelo (even though Hall scored a great length of the field try) and a higher rate of mobility and work-rate from the wings will be needed.
The closest player/winger (in terms of style) England have to Pelo is Fox and I'd definitely play him against the Aussies & Kiwis even though he's been in poor form for a long while.
Tom Briscoe is a really strong, solid unit who I'd play in the centre in years to come. I even think he may end up playing second-row a few years down the line because he doesn't get shifted in the tackle.
Smith picking Myler above Tomkins was absolutely criminal cos Myler cannot control a game. I'd move Sinfield into the halves with McGuire and use an extra prop at loose-man.
Not a bad idea that although I'd also lose McGuire, his kicking was awful at times last night and there's no way the Aussies and Kiwi's will let him get away with his usual mince across the line and then wang a speculative pass out hoping his centre will make something of it.
Sinfield at 6, his job is solely to organise and run the kicking game. Eastmond at 7, take on and break the line.
Burgess to loose.
Lose Westwood, just not good enough.
Bring in Carvell and Crabtree.
Basic game plan is to attempt to make it a forward dominated battle, it's pointless trying to take on either backline.
We'll still lose, but we shouldn't take an absolute hiding.
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pmh wrote:Not a bad idea that although I'd also lose McGuire, his kicking was awful at times last night and there's no way the Aussies and Kiwi's will let him get away with his usual mince across the line and then wang a speculative pass out hoping his centre will make something of it.
Sinfield at 6, his job is solely to organise and run the kicking game. Eastmond at 7, take on and break the line. Burgess to loose. Lose Westwood, just not good enough. Bring in Carvell and Crabtree. Basic game plan is to attempt to make it a forward dominated battle, it's pointless trying to take on either backline. We'll still lose, but we shouldn't take an absolute hiding.
Couldn`t agree more mate..he seemed clueless.
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pmh wrote:Not a bad idea that although I'd also lose McGuire, his kicking was awful at times last night and there's no way the Aussies and Kiwi's will let him get away with his usual mince across the line and then wang a speculative pass out hoping his centre will make something of it.
Sinfield at 6, his job is solely to organise and run the kicking game. Eastmond at 7, take on and break the line. Burgess to loose. Lose Westwood, just not good enough. Bring in Carvell and Crabtree. Basic game plan is to attempt to make it a forward dominated battle, it's pointless trying to take on either backline. We'll still lose, but we shouldn't take an absolute hiding.
This is the team ive put on the VT, ive gone for a big pack and a youthful exciting backline.
Big Dave T wrote:1. Smith 2. Briscoe 3. Eastmond 4. Shenton 5. Hall 6. Tomkins 7. Myler 8. Morley 9. Moore 10. Graham 11. Peacock 12. Burgess 13. Sinfield
R.B.A wrote:It would be suicide to have Eastmond, Tompkins and Myler all in the same backline against the Aussies.
Why?
Myler will play. Mcguire probably will but i'd choose Tomkins, both are equally weak in defence.
Eastmond has shown that he can play centre and do very special things for saints, defensively he may get found out but then so might any other centre we have. Wouldnt you chance your arm and go for the flair players?
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