Actually im going with some other posters off here as 1 of their group dropped out so a ticket was available. There are some club Wembley tickets at £140 going at Ticketmaster

It is my birthday in a few weeks cant you send a p.m to Swarcliffe Rhino

There is a clear difference. I've not said they have a decieving record. I've said i'll wait until they have played some better teams to say whether i'll change MY opinion on them. They have and i've changed my opinion somewhat.

You've said we have a decieving record yet refuse to answer my question. You patently are talking rubbish.

If you can't see the difference between you accusing me of saying Denver have a decieving record (which i didn't) when they were 3-0 despite many suggesting they are a relatively poor team after trading the star QB and Green Bay, a team at 3-2, typical middle of the road team then you're an idiot.

Personal insults are on the way, weapon of the weak minded. I've answered your question several times. there are teams who are better than the Packers who have lesser records as they have played better teams, this shows that the Packers record is decieving as they aren't a better team than lets say the Ravens, hopefully that will finally let the penny drop.

I'm not weak minded.

You're comparing too many different records. I could argue that Houston (for example) have played more difficult teams than the Saints (for example) so are better and therefore have a decieving record. If we were 5-0 and Baltimore 0-5 would Baltimore still be the better team? So not only are we decieving because we have only beaten "poor team" but also because other teams have worse records? Something entirely out of control.

So what your saying is essentially that in your opinion Baltimore are a better team so because we are currently on a better record we must have a decieving record.

You really haven't answered my question which i've underlined several times. One more can't hurt. DECEPTION MEANS TO HIDE SOMETHING. ARE WE HIDING THAT WE SHOULD BE AN EXCELLENT TEAM (5-0) OR A TERRIBLE TEAM (0-5)??

Calm down dear its only a forum !!!

Fair play. I'd recommend the Green Man pre match after last year if you get a chance. Jam packed of NFL fans from all teams and a cracking atmosphere. I was speaking to one bloke last year who had tickets for the official tailgate. He went in the Green Man before it, swanned off at 12 ish and was back by one cos he said it wasn't a patch!

I'll be going out round the City afterwards probably. I can only see me ending up in one place - 4 of us are going, the other 3 are single - Strigfellows!

To decieve means to mislead, your record is misleading as was Denvers at the time, which is what yourself pointed out. I may change my opinion when you beat a decent team or 2 but at the moment it is misleading.

PMSL.

You quite clearly can't or won't answer my question. Evidently because you don't have an answer.