we have to get george signed up ASAP in my opinion.

we finally have a settled 1-7 and george is definately worth another couple of years. Id be tempted to loan goulding to them on a week by week loan again. and stick with pryce and thornley and bailey as back up to the centre as either one of those could play centre.

id give carmont 2 years purly on the basis of him being able to do a job and being, as shown in the playoffs, our best strike player. in his second year we should be looking at easing thornley in to take over when carmont retires and goulding should be eased in to gleesons position.

With all due respect to Celtic, I can't see any of our players WANTING to leave, just because Nobby has gone there. There is a zero per cent chance of winning anything, and it's likely they might lose their SL franchise too.
With MM and SW taking over, it has brought a wave of optimism within the fans, so you have to assume the players feel the same.
If next year's coaches are going to change things for the better, I'm confident all the players would want to stay and win something.

If it is wrong, it isn't far wrong.

Wigan dropped out of the auction for King when it was approaching the £200 grand mark. Wire fans can whinge all they want, but our info on this is at least as good as theirs.

Anyone who works at the Inland revenue can find out what any players wage is.

Or in some players cases anyone that works in Costco can find out! A few players have left their payslips in there while they've been joining up.

Whilst they may be able to find out what his salary is, i suspect we'll never know the full picture of what his actual earnings are

NOTE I AM NOT REFERRING TO ANY SPECIFIC PLAYER OR CLUB

PURELY HYPOTHETICAL.

If Carmont went I would literally cry. Best Wigan player for a good few years easily.

I like Carmont, would want him to stay.

But if he wants a deal that means some of the players that have come through our own system such as Goulding or Thornley, feel they have to move on. With regret, I would wish him well and move on.

As the only obvious room for manoeuvre (on the salary cap) for MM is from Carmont and Bailey's wages, I would hazard a guess that the reason that both haven't re-signed, is evidence that IL believes that MM may wish to explore other options?

Personally, I like the pair of them as club men, as I did Nobby, but staying faithful to good lads may not be the best route to winning trophies? This is a controversial view in our household, I guess it's only a shame that both are getting on and appear to becoming susceptible to injuries, or we wouldn't be questioning these 2 class servants futures.

I think it's indicative of how much the standards of Wigan fans have been brutalised in recent years that we get senitmental about the 'good lads' in our team. George Carmont is indeed a good lad, but he's also 32 - and as long as he's here, he's going to prevent a younger centre getting a first team place or the club signing an even better centre from somewhere else. Bailey is an even more obvious example, as he's on bigger wages, has been a less effective player and is reportedly struggling with a long-term injury.

The NRL way is to replace players when they are approaching the end of their usefulness. I don't see the logic in hanging onto two guys, however much we may like them, as they progress into their 30s, when we (presumably) have ready-made replacements waiting in the wings.