OrdsallRed wrote:OK OK I'll give you at least half of them...but Chris Flannery????
And there's a few in there that are only nominally 2nd rowers too...whenever I've seen Idris play he's been at centre or wing, Gallen i've always seen as a lock forward

Enfield Exile wrote:You haven't watched him much. Prior to playing lock he played second-row. I was at the game in which he scored his first try in first grade. He's basically a second-rower asked to play at lock, and very occasionally as a stand-off.

OrdsallRed wrote:OK OK I'll give you at least half of them...but Chris Flannery????
And there's a few in there that are only nominally 2nd rowers too...whenever I've seen Idris play he's been at centre or wing, Gallen i've always seen as a lock forward same with Costigan (who I don't rate either!) and a few others (Lewis, O'Donnell, Creagh, Laurie - wouldnt be first choice 2nd rowers per se though they can all clearly do a job there)

We all know that there are far more players for the Aussies to choose from in all positions...maybe the more pertinent question is, are there any 2nd rowers available who haven't been picked for England?? Apart from The Terminator Ian Sibbit of course

Red Preacher wrote:Willie Mason. After this year, erm, no! Truly dreadful until around round 20 when he scraped mediocrity.
Carl Webb. 2nd row? Well, if Carl Webb wants to play 2nd row or any other row for that matter, I wouldn't tell him otherwise. He scares people even when he's trying to be nice I'm sure....

Red Preacher wrote:Willie Mason. After this year, erm, no! Truly dreadful until around round 20 when he scraped mediocrity.

Enfield Exile wrote:He's still far better than Westwood

Salford red all over wrote:I can just see it now Slater and Thurston literally sh*tting themselves with worry

OrdsallRed wrote:As I've said before, Paul Sykes is the big one that bamboozles me...how he can get in ahead of ... Stuart Littler is beyond me.

scott-the-red wrote:Ratchford has been ommitted from the wales game