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XBrettKennyX wrote:Surely we have at LEAST Hocks salary to spend?


No, a lot of the junior / reserve players have been given big increases (deservedly)






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Bert's Medal wrote:Don't rule out Wigan signing 1 or 2 decent players on modest wages for 2010, with their wages being increased when we release other players in 2011


I believe this is how we managed to sign Martin Gleeson which may explain why we have less money on the cap to spend on new players.






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Rogues Gallery wrote:No, a lot of the junior / reserve players have been given big increases (deservedly)


It's also not simply a case of a like for like wage split.

For example let's imagine using completely made up figures:

We were at the cap and hock was getting 100k, and our total 25 top earners came to 1.6 million, and we had 3 lads who were outside the top 25 earners but we'd played them in a qualifying game and their total salary came to 45k (one at 15k and 2 at 10k)

Lets imagine we upgrade the salary of the lad on 15k, and lets call him Tom and the other two lads who are on 10k Dick and Harry.

Gareth Hock leaves - this frees up 100k on first tier liability and makes the lad currently on 15k our 25th top earner. We increase his salary to 35k - we still have 65k available on the first tier cap.

We could not sign a new player on 50k even though we have 65k of first tier cap available.

Why? well this would push Tom to be the 26th Highest earner meaning his 35K needs to fit into the 2nd tier cap of 50K and Dick and Harry's current wages mean there's only space for 30K.

The whole cap is a really big juggling act, and it's not always quite so simple as to say player X left there we have Amount Y available.

Hope that makes sense.

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Tricky Dicky wrote:We need a centre in 2011, a certain Mr Kings contract is up i believe in 2010, a certain Mr King having connections with MM.

As they say 2+2 = 5


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Graham to Wigan :lol: No chance.

If we sign anyone, they will be an older head squad player like Coley/Carmont.

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I've heard all the Graham rumours. McManus has said he'll never let wigan sign a player from his club, so I can't see that happening. Remember the Higham thing when he had to go to bratfut first?

If the rumours about Graham leaving saints are true, then I think the bulls are his next club. They need a big prop with Burgess going, and they've got all that money from the sale to buy Graham out of his contract with Saints.

Who knows though, stranger things have happened.

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kevl84 wrote:I've heard all the Graham rumours. McManus has said he'll never let wigan sign a player from his club, so I can't see that happening. Remember the Higham thing when he had to go to bratfut first?


That was because he wouldnt deal with Maurice/Whelan. Him & IL are good friends.

kevl84 wrote:If the rumours about Graham leaving saints are true, then I think the bulls are his next club. They need a big prop with Burgess going, and they've got all that money from the sale to buy Graham out of his contract with Saints.


So little chance of him going to Bradford its amusing :lol:

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whys that? there's as much chance of him going there than there is to wigan. He already hates leeds, he'll fit in well with bradford fans! :)

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kevl84 wrote:whys that? there's as much chance of him going there than there is to wigan. He already hates leeds, he'll fit in well with bradford fans! :)


Because Bradford aren't even in the playoffs, If he left Saints, it would be the NRL I think.

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