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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:54 pm 
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By those same Australian names that have been mentioned, i'd argue that potentially nobody in super league has any 'world class' players currently.

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Steve Ella's Beard wrote:By those same Australian names that have been mentioned, i'd argue that potentially nobody in super league has any 'world class' players currently.


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post wrote:I was just about to post exactly the same thing.


Great minds think alike!

Or equally stupid ones!






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Odemwingie wrote:Great minds think alike!

Or equally stupid ones!


Errrr.... great minds yeah! :wink:






Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

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If it is to be McGuire then things will change.
He will recruit his own backroom staff I would imagine and as he's been an asst coach as well as strength & cond coach then he will be able to have both an in depth view of all aspects as well as being able to introduce his overall plan.
New coaches aften bring players with them as Noble brought Flanagan, Withers and Fielden. McGuire may well bring a quality player here.
We now have a large squad with many younger players. He will see that we need to recruit senior players to bring the experience we need and guide the youngers both on and off the field.
I don't expect more than two signings but I'm sure he will change the style of rugby we play.

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pedro17 wrote:we do not have 1 world class player in our squad how can we challnge?
Spot on, so why get rid of Nobby? 2 semi-finals this year is overachieving.

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flyingkelvin wrote:Spot on, so why get rid of Nobby? 2 semi-finals this year is overachieving.


Obviously because hes not a yes man as he pointed out he and IL have different views on certain things.

I would expect Noble was on a decent wage as well and going off IL's liking of 'value' then i suspect the new coach may come cheaper.

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I think the problem we have set ourselves now is that we have set a benchmark that reaching semi-finals isn't good enough. So what happens if we reach the semi finals and lose again? Do we start sacking our coaches on a yearly basis? Hopefully the new boss, barring us being awful from start to finish, will be given time.

I just hope people don't get their hopes up too much because without a couple of additions to the squad I don't think we'll be winning any trophies next year.






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Red Hot Jalapeno wrote:Obviously because hes not a yes man as he pointed out he and IL have different views on certain things.

I would expect Noble was on a decent wage as well and going off IL's liking of 'value' then i suspect the new coach may come cheaper.


If IL appoints Shaun Wane, you could be right - chepness is the chief motivator. If however IL appoints an Aussie, who's left the NRL to come over here, and has uprooted his family as well, your view will have been exposed as nonsensical. Again. :D

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As has been said Bailey & Carmont's contracts should be reviewed.

Bailey should be released, and depending how his body will hold up, Carmont should maybe go the same way - now before I get flamed, if we are to ever make ago of Pryce or Goulding, now needs to be the time, and given George's age and the fact he is falling apart, perhaps we need to release him. That being said, I would be happy with a year.

McGuire in - Wane Assistant.

That would mean we need to appoint a new reserve coach & potentially a conditioner depending if McGuire see's value in Forshaw or indeed if he goes with Noble.

Lyon, Rads & Pendelbury you would assume would remain in their current roles.

Then we really need to make a decision about players, we need cover at half to enable Gleeson/Locky to remain in their proper positions, unless the reserve 7 is likely to be able to step up next year - Rogues thoughts??

I would really like us to sign a prop and loan O'Carroll out for the season, maybe send him to Celtic to work with Noble?

Following that, id like to see a pre-season that didn't involve a holiday island, Rivington is still a big hill isn't it? :D

I wish Noble was still head coach & I also don't believe he was treated properly, but its not going to happen, so its time to back the new coach as far as the playing side goes.

I really hope we aren't disapointed on Wednesday.

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