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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:58 pm 
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Sheldon wrote:are you saying that if you made your break through at 17/18 you wont get better after 21?

halls pace is blistering, hes scored 10 in 14 games, defensively he needs to improve but he will. :wink:


No im saying that late developers like Welham appear under the radar and dont get the hype.
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Jake the Peg wrote:No chance. They're both flaky in defence but hall is an exceptional attacking talent and certainly one of the fastest centres in SL


All that applies to Kevin Penny on the wing and id rather stick pins up my jacksy then see him in a Rovers shirt.

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red al wrote:don't the nrl have central contracts though similar to RU to keep top players like the ones mentioned?


None that I am aware of.

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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:OK.
Lets make it simple for you.
Welham = Ever Present in the team that finished 4th in the Table.
Hall = Fringe Player and loaned out in the team that finished 12th
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If you take the time to digest what is actually posted then you might not make yourself look so much of a fool.
Ive posted that if they both reach full potencial Hall will be the better player.
But as things stand Welham has had a far far better season then Hall and deserves credit for that.
Its up to Hall to change that opinion.


all what that proves is its harder to get into our centres than it is hkrs. all your points to why welhams better doesn't stand up against hall.

and explain the break through at 21 stuff?
were am i saying welham doesn't deserve credit?






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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Sheldon wrote:all what that proves is its harder to get into our centres than it is hkrs. all your points to why welhams better doesn't stand up against hall.

and explain the break through at 21 stuff?
were am i saying welham doesn't deserve credit?


Oh come on.
Byrne and Yeaman, Hall and G Horne.
You serious :?:

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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:No im saying that late developers like Welham appear under the radar and dont get the hype.
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some players develop later i agree but it doesn't mean players cant improve after 21, some players play their best rugby in their 30's. some are even saying senior has had his best season this year.






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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Oh come on.
Byrne and Yeaman, Hall and G Horne.
You serious :?:


whos in front of welham? since morgan realised walker is a 2nd rower hes had no competion for that position.

welhams had a good year in a strong side, since halls returned hes had a good return of tries in a poor side.






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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Surely its all about how these players are developing and not by matching last years appearance stats!

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Sheldon wrote:some players develop later i agree but it doesn't mean players cant improve after 21, some players play their best rugby in their 30's. some are even saying senior has had his best season this year.


Please quote me where i said that was the case.
My point about Welham is that 09 was his 1st full season.
All the other names being posted as better players have more SL experiance, therefore he could potencially catch them up in performance and in some instances be the better player in the longer term.

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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Please quote me where i said that was the case.
My point about Welham is that 09 was his 1st full season.
All the other names being posted as better players have more SL experiance, therefore he could potencially catch them up in performance and in some instances be the better player in the longer term.


Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Welham at this moment in time is ahead of Hall purely on the basis that he didnt need to go out on loan to a lower league club to rebuild his confidence.
Welham is a great reader of the game.
His pace isnt blistering but he isnt the sloutch some on here are making him out to be.
His try scoring record is 1 every 2 games which in SL is above average.
Defensively he needs to improve but he will.
People are forgetting he made his break through at aged 21 not 17, 18.
Therefore he still has improvement in him.

And he has caught the eye of Tony Smith this season so maybe one day he might get Rep honours.






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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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