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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:49 am 
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Roofs wrote:Gotta say I actually agree. He clearly does, e.g. Newton or Galea could have an absolute nightmare for a few games but their spots are always guaranteed.
Not knocking Justin because he's had a lot more hits then misses at Rovers, but he def made mistakes last weekend.
IMO Fisher certainly is an SL-level hooker, and might have made a difference, esp when scores were so close 2nd half.


I agree as well. There is certainly an Aussie circle of trust within the club. The disappointing thing is that he always favours Dobson as the main playmaker which is a waste of Cookie's talents.

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raynor the crab wrote:I agree as well. There is certainly an Aussie circle of trust within the club. The disappointing thing is that he always favours Dobson as the main playmaker which is a waste of Cookie's talents.


Isn't that the same at most clubs, the high end earners / big name signings never seem to get dropped, whereas other players (usually English) take the brunt of the criticism. Looking at FC, Berrigan has had a poor season/carried an injury yet still got continually picked.

Dobson for us is almost undroppable, mainly due to us not having any cover inthat area.

There is also a counter arguement that says if he did drop Dobbo and then lost, then he would be publicly slaughtered for making a poor decision, a lot on here are slating him for dropping an aussie already and thats one that isn;t our main playmaker.

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barham red wrote:Isn't that the same at most clubs, the high end earners / big name signings never seem to get dropped, whereas other players (usually English) take the brunt of the criticism. Looking at FC, Berrigan has had a poor season/carried an injury yet still got continually picked.

Dobson for us is almost undroppable, mainly due to us not having any cover inthat area.

There is also a counter arguement that says if he did drop Dobbo and then lost, then he would be publicly slaughtered for making a poor decision, a lot on here are slating him for dropping an aussie already and thats one that isn;t our main playmaker.


Difference is that berrigan has been one of the better players in a poorly performing team, plus we've barely had 17 fit players most weeks so dimwit agar hasn't had too many options.

When he was at Hull, cooke was the go to man. He hasn't really got much to offer if he isn't doing that. He's better than dobson at it IMO but has a completely different style. cooke has been a driving force in Hull being one of the top sides in the comp, winning big matches and getting to major finals. dobson has done none of that yet he's favoured over cooke. It was pretty much an open secret that morgan never wanted cooke at the club and it has shown ever since

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raynor the crab wrote:I agree as well. There is certainly an Aussie circle of trust within the club. The disappointing thing is that he always favours Dobson as the main playmaker which is a waste of Cookie's talents.


I hope you've got proof it exists. Reeny will be demanding it in no uncertain terms otherwise. :lol:

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Jake the Peg wrote:Difference is that berrigan has been one of the better players in a poorly performing team, plus we've barely had 17 fit players most weeks so dimwit agar hasn't had too many options.

When he was at Hull, cooke was the go to man. He hasn't really got much to offer if he isn't doing that. He's better than dobson at it IMO but has a completely different style. cooke has been a driving force in Hull being one of the top sides in the comp, winning big matches and getting to major finals. dobson has done none of that yet he's favoured over cooke. It was pretty much an open secret that morgan never wanted cooke at the club and it has shown ever since


If you read the HDM article by Paul I think you will find he said it took himself a number of years to get an understanding with the players around him at Hull FC.
You cannnot look at things in isolation. Sometimes we are all guilty of keeping our own club's blinkers on a little to tightly 8)

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Jake the Peg wrote:Difference is that berrigan has been one of the better players in a poorly performing team, plus we've barely had 17 fit players most weeks so dimwit agar hasn't had too many options.

When he was at Hull, cooke was the go to man. He hasn't really got much to offer if he isn't doing that. He's better than dobson at it IMO but has a completely different style. cooke has been a driving force in Hull being one of the top sides in the comp, winning big matches and getting to major finals. dobson has done none of that yet he's favoured over cooke. It was pretty much an open secret that morgan never wanted cooke[/b[b]] at the club and it has shown ever since


Open secret ?

Depends wether you listen to a few bitter Hull fans with there own agenda.

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Basil Fawlty wrote:If you read the HDM article by Paul I think you will find he said it took himself a number of years to get an understanding with the players around him at Hull FC.
You cannnot look at things in isolation. Sometimes we are all guilty of keeping our own club's blinkers on a little to tightly 8)


He's in his 3rd year at rovers and still seems to be left out in the cold in terms of your game plan. Maybe it's the Hull accent morgan doesn't like

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Jake the Peg wrote:He's in his 3rd year at rovers and still seems to be left out in the cold in terms of your game plan. Maybe it's the Hull accent morgan doesn't like


Welham not from Hull then? :wink:






"The Mail understands..." NOTHING! :SUBMISSION: :lol:


[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. :wink:[/quote]

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Bertie wrote:Open secret ?

Depends wether you listen to a few bitter Hull fans with there own agenda.


Nah, it was evident in the post match press conference after the derby he was dropped for what morgan's opinion of cooke is

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Jake the Peg wrote:Nah, it was evident in the post match press conference after the derby he was dropped for what morgan's opinion of cooke is


You have to get over it. He's left you, your team have gone downwards without their most influential player and he has, in no small part, been a vital cog in our rise up the Super League table.

Its eating you and your ilk up, try and get help...its out there. You know it makes sense.

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