Joined: May 09 2009 Posts: 1113 Location: East Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:Rovers had an average gate of 3,389 in 2006, making the current crowd 60% bandwagoners. At FC, the pre gate of 5933 means that only 55% of our fans are bandwagoners. Backed up by Hudgell's comment this week that "I always knew we had a huge dormant support crying out for success" If you look up the definition of bandwagoner, that just about covers it.
Joined: May 09 2009 Posts: 1113 Location: East Hull
Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:I can, for a start our average league gate in 2006 was actually 3,402. Given that we jumped up to 7,157 the following season, our bandwagoner %age is 52% of the 2007 crowd.
Joined: Sep 18 2005 Posts: 8742 Location: 2017 City of Culture
Mrs Barista wrote:So those extra 1400 that boarded the bandwagon in 2008 are not included? I think that's out of order. Those starting to turn up in 2008 are the biggest bandwagoners of all, waiting to see whether Rovers would survive in SL before putting their hands in their pockets. I admit you've had no bandwagoners this season as your gates have in fact gone backwards, but I do think you're being a bit selective in terms of excluding the 1400 "top drawer" bandwagoners.
Possibly, but as an accountant, I know you can make stats say anything. Losing the %age thing for a moment, consider this:
Joined: Sep 18 2005 Posts: 8742 Location: 2017 City of Culture
Mrs Barista wrote:So you clearly have more bandwagoners. You probably have even more than the official numbers, but many get in for nothing, apparently.
See my previous post, don't confuse %ages with actual fan/bandwagoner numbers!
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:Possibly, but as an accountant, I know you can make stats say anything. Losing the %age thing for a moment, consider this:
(despite your gates sliding backwards from the heady days of 2007)
You need to use the percentage though. I'm not arguing the point on the number of fans, we have more and over the last century it was (pretty much) ever thus so for a relative measure you need to use %s.
On the point of the attendances sliding backwards, hardly surprising since we've dropped 8 places in the league. Even so, the last 3 seasons are the 3 highest average attendances in the club's history (yes, going back to 1865).
Joined: Sep 18 2005 Posts: 8742 Location: 2017 City of Culture
Mrs Barista wrote:On the point of the attendances sliding backwards, hardly surprising since we've dropped 8 places in the league. Even so, the last 3 seasons are the 3 highest average attendances in the club's history (yes, going back to 1865).
Kudos to the faithful. Proof if it were ever needed, that there is never owt decent on telly Friday nights.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:See my previous post, don't confuse %ages with actual fan/bandwagoner numbers!
To summarise then:
FC's crowds are 55% bigger than Rovers. We have a greater number of bandwagoners as you would expect with much bigger absolute attendances. However, using your initial methodology, we have only 40% bandwagoners compared to Rovers 52%.
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