Wigan Peer wrote:Its what some on here keep saying, but not many are listening.... How much space will this lot give us under the cap? and how many will we need to bring in from outside?. Also could make us a club that needs to sell good players for good money...
As long as we keep the right players then I don't care.
If we are smart with the cap with so many young players we should easily be one of the top 3 teams.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
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DaveO wrote:Ultimately not much. While they are establishing themselves in the side they won't command a big wage obviously but if some of them reach the potential people think they have Wigan will have to pay the going rate to keep them. In fact they may not be able to keep all of them and stay under the cap which is of course what the cap is all about, spreading the talent across the teams with no club being able to hog all the best players.
Dave
That's why were I Lenegan or the owner of any of the big clubs whom produce players I would petition the RFL to get kids removed from the cap of the club that produced them, rewarding clubs that produce them.
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Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0
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LovesToSpooge wrote:That's why were I Lenegan or the owner of any of the big clubs whom produce players I would petition the RFL to get kids removed from the cap of the club that produced them, rewarding clubs that produce them.
The idea that SL clubs exclude U21s from the salary cap has been around years. Trouble is over SL time the biggest winners would have been Wigan and Leeds. The other clubs would never ever vote for that.
Maybe even the Hetheringtons wouldn't vote for it.
However now the "home trained rule" is in force and clubs are obliged to provide players for their 25 man squad attitudes may change.
The NRL don't include their reserve grade in the SC so why do we?
If we are to compete with the Roos then we should exclude our reserve garde from the SC.
Let's not expect our SL chairmen to catch on that quickly!
Father Ted wrote:The idea that SL clubs exclude U21s from the salary cap has been around years. Trouble is over SL time the biggest winners would have been Wigan and Leeds. The other clubs would never ever vote for that. Maybe even the Hetheringtons wouldn't vote for it. However now the "home trained rule" is in force and clubs are obliged to provide players for their 25 man squad attitudes may change. The NRL don't include their reserve grade in the SC so why do we? If we are to compete with the Roos then we should exclude our reserve garde from the SC. Let's not expect our SL chairmen to catch on that quickly!
I am not sure if that is the way to do it but we do need a way of rewarding team who bring through young players.
One point in the table for every player who plays in a season which puts us 3rd
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
Rogues Gallery wrote:Bailey has NOT been offered a one year playing contract.
So has he been offered a longer one? or not offered one at all?
I hope it's the second one tbh. I'm happy with how Hansen, Tomkins and Lockers are going and Mossop is playing very well also. It's a shame Flanagan won't be here next year because he's been superb but Liam Farrell looks more then capable of making the step up to me.
We also have the option of putting Coley in there if needs be and a couple of other young lads so we'll not go short if Bailey goes.
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To offer Bailey anything more than a 1 year deal would be a poor move, it would indicate to me his injury has cost his place in the Wigan team next year.
We must use his money to bring in a Prop.
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jonh wrote:To offer Bailey anything more than a 1 year deal would be a poor move, it would indicate to me his injury has cost his place in the Wigan team next year.
We must use his money to bring in a Prop.
Agreed. Though Bailey is apparently a likeable guy, and is well regarded around the club, I still feel he's a journeyman type player. Given that he's also now injured, I think we need to be more ambitious.
jonh wrote:To offer Bailey anything more than a 1 year deal would be a poor move, it would indicate to me his injury has cost his place in the Wigan team next year.
We must use his money to bring in a Prop.
I was just about eding towards giving him a years deal until his injury. That injury should have cost him any chance of staying at the club imo. It's harsh to let a guy like Bailey go on the back of an injury like that because he seems well respected and really does give the club his all but he's simply no better then the 4 or 5 other option we have and they all have the advantage of being British and Cheaper then Bailey.
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