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Barnacle Bill wrote:The points system as you describe was not used by the RFL last time around, it is for the next round of franchising, although Ms Powers decided to use it for her own reasons.
I'm pretty sure that the stadium requirement is 12,000 hence the rash of 12,000 capacity grounds (and plans).
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hull smallears wrote:I think it is 12k, but also not sure you lot should be extending the east stand above sorting out the away support. IMO of course.
hull smallears wrote:I think it is 12k, but also not sure you lot should be extending the east stand above sorting out the away support. IMO of course.
Fair point but we would add another another 1,000+ season ticket holders because many folk don't want to get a season ticket for the golf stand and the well is sold out as well.
Get the East Stand extention done and the East Stand finished and then the club can focus their energies on providing better facilities for the away support.
On that basis you'd easily get a B with ground extension.
The solvency one is interesting. Since (nearly) all clubs are loss-making, I'd guess this will be a relative financial measure. Can't remember whether Saints, for example, got the solvency point or not, as they continually make losses of c£400k each year, but their hand is strengthened by the fact they own their own ground and therefore have an asset valued at £8m.
This is the RFL though, and I don't know whether they've declared the criteria for the next round of assessments. I think there will be something on youth development as this was one of the clearly stated objectives of introducing licensing, so there should be some measure included.
On that basis you'd easily get a B with ground extension.
The solvency one is interesting. Since (nearly) all clubs are loss-making, I'd guess this will be a relative financial measure. Can't remember whether Saints, for example, got the solvency point or not, as they continually make losses of c£400k each year, but their hand is strengthened by the fact they own their own ground and therefore have an asset valued at £8m.
This is the RFL though, and I don't know whether they've declared the criteria for the next round of assessments. I think there will be something on youth development as this was one of the clearly stated objectives of introducing licensing, so there should be some measure included.
On that basis you'd easily get a B with ground extension.
The solvency one is interesting. Since (nearly) all clubs are loss-making, I'd guess this will be a relative financial measure. Can't remember whether Saints, for example, got the solvency point or not, as they continually make losses of c£400k each year, but their hand is strengthened by the fact they own their own ground and therefore have an asset valued at £8m. This is the RFL though, and I don't know whether they've declared the criteria for the next round of assessments. I think there will be something on youth development as this was one of the clearly stated objectives of introducing licensing, so there should be some measure included.
Why? there are academy quotas in place now where as there weren't before so I expect it to either be done away with or every team will get a point for it.
On that basis you'd easily get a B with ground extension.
The solvency one is interesting. Since (nearly) all clubs are loss-making, I'd guess this will be a relative financial measure. Can't remember whether Saints, for example, got the solvency point or not, as they continually make losses of c£400k each year, but their hand is strengthened by the fact they own their own ground and therefore have an asset valued at £8m. This is the RFL though, and I don't know whether they've declared the criteria for the next round of assessments. I think there will be something on youth development as this was one of the clearly stated objectives of introducing licensing, so there should be some measure included.
Why? there are academy quotas in place now where as there weren't before so I expect it to either be done away with or every team will get a point for it.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
General Zod. wrote:Why? there are academy quotas in place now where as there weren't before so I expect it to either be done away with or every team will get a point for it.
Widnes chairman said only last month "We now understand what we need to do to get a licence. We are determined to have all the boxes ticked next time." He added: "We recognise there were financial shortfalls in the previous administration, so we needed to satisfy the financial security of the club. We also recognised that our policies around youth development needed to be improve and we needed to be bringing more young players through our system." So from his discussions with the RFL on Widnes' chances next time, it sounds like youth development is still on the criteria list.
The point on youth development was assessed on the basis not only of the number of homegrown players in the squad but the club's policy and practices. The license reviews were very detailed last time, using qualitative inputs rather than a simple numbers checklist. I'd be surprised if they abandon a review of homegrown player development practices and simply count the number of academy players "promoted" to the first team squad instead. But you never know with the RFL.
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