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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:30 am 
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Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm
Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm

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Puig-Aubert wrote:Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm
I'd agree that Richard's response is unapologetic but I didn't detect arrogance.

My take was Richards was speaking Honestly whilst the player was reading a pre-prepared statement.
Puig-Aubert wrote:Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm
I'd agree that Richard's response is unapologetic but I didn't detect arrogance.

My take was Richards was speaking Honestly whilst the player was reading a pre-prepared statement.






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Puig-Aubert wrote:Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm


I have to say that I think the RU has got this right, coming down hard on Richard's and since reflecting, reducing Williams ban. To me this is cheating of the highest order, to fake an injury to allow you to break the rules to bring on a new sub... that is despicable!

It was dumb of Williams to get himself caught up in this mess but if your boss was putting you under pressure to do something so low given that he does have a huge influence on your current playing career, would you do it? He clearly should not have done it and a 4 month ban seems to strike the right balance. As for Richards, he deserves everything he has got!
Puig-Aubert wrote:Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but this struck me as a weird story.

Especially compare & contrast Dean Richard's entirely unapologetic and arrogant response with that of the player involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 191371.stm


I have to say that I think the RU has got this right, coming down hard on Richard's and since reflecting, reducing Williams ban. To me this is cheating of the highest order, to fake an injury to allow you to break the rules to bring on a new sub... that is despicable!

It was dumb of Williams to get himself caught up in this mess but if your boss was putting you under pressure to do something so low given that he does have a huge influence on your current playing career, would you do it? He clearly should not have done it and a 4 month ban seems to strike the right balance. As for Richards, he deserves everything he has got!






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Whats the full story on this then?

Did all the players know about this and carry fake blood capsules awaiting instructions to use them? whos idea was it Richards? the doctors? the coach?

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G1 wrote:I'd agree that Richard's response is unapologetic but I didn't detect arrogance.

My take was Richards was speaking Honestly whilst the player was reading a pre-prepared statement.


For me it reads that he's been caught quite deliberately cheating and that he'd done it on a number of other occassions.

His only regret seemed to be that on the occassion he was caught the plan wasn't executed well enough to avoid detection.

Despite repeatedly doing the crime and being entirely unrepentant he then expresses surprise at the severity of his punishment.

To me that smacks of extreme arrogance - that he's bigger than the game.

If he'd expressed some remorse/apology/confession of stupidity and said the punishment was harsh then fair enough.

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For some reason, I don't know what, this reminds me of the first Super League Grand Final, and our defeat by Wigan.






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The existance of a fake blood capsule does show a certain level of planning. Not part of a usual rugby kit bag

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If it was a one off OK but this was a regular event it seems

Cheating perhaps - bending the rules perhaps - certainly show thorough preparation!!!

If the player is under instruction to carry out this what does he do refuse? Richards doesn't look like the kind of bloke you say no to without there being some serious consequences

Three year ban - some punishment!!!






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Richie wrote:For some reason, I don't know what, this reminds me of the first Super League Grand Final, and our defeat by Wigan.
Not following. Can you expand?






Quote:Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.


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Rugby Yawnion, lies, arrogance. It's like the good old shamatuerism days.






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