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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:39 am 
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Last Son of Wigan wrote:You clearly wrote how Mossop 'will be a prop' that statement is not a matter of option but a factual comment.

An option doesn't become a fact if backed up by facts Jonh, for example, someone may say Tomkins is a better SR than Bailey then back up their comment with stats facts, then someone will counter that comment with other stat facts to prove Bailey is a better SR, hence a debate.
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Hence you do not have 100% facts and that is why it remains an opinion.

I do think Mossop will be a prop, i am unsure where the confusion lies.






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 Post subject: Re: Flanagan off to the NRL?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:39 am 
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jonh wrote:You are entitled to your opinion which is fine, i am honestly board of your cameo appearances on here slating everyone else's opinion and then vanishing for another few months.
What position would you play him next year? Locky has been the form loose this year in the comp and is going nowhere.

Given our current deficiencies up front we need some size and go forward in our backrow, both Mossop and Farrell give us this certainly over what Flannigan can. Nobody is faulting Flanigan's contribution thus far but is he has played only a few games his workrate is fantastic but given his size and stage of development can we expect this from him week in week out throughout a regular season, in my opinion no.

Having spoken about reserve players with reserve players Farrell is always mentioned as an opponent that they do not like to play against and is held in very high regard by his fellow reserve standard players Flanigan i dont think ever in these talks get a mention.

I do not for one second think he is a bad player, but our pack clearly lacks go forward, for the balance of the team i feel the above players mentioned offer the team more at this moment in time than Flanigan does. if we had a pack able to dominate teams i am sure he would be worth a spot much like the Wilkin role at Saints, i see him very much as that kind of player. The fact is we have very little go forward and a front row that fails to dominate there opponents apart from a 3 or 4 week spell every year.

Flanigan will be able to enhance his handling skills and his conditioning in an environment much more suited to improving this. In a couple of year he should return a better player and hopefully once we have the likes of Fielden off our hands and Prescott with another few years development a team of props capable of consistently competing and winning the battle upfront.

Until we are in a position to field a team of Props capable of this the last thing we need is a lightweight backrow.

Who mentioned anything about brining in bog standard Aussies by the way? I am starting to think you have an obsession with them, all the promotion for the backrow should and does look to be coming from within the club.

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jonh wrote:Hence you do not have 100% facts and that is why it remains an opinion.

I do think Mossop will be a prop, i am unsure where the confusion lies.


Where are your facts that Mossop will be a prop? its a call without anything to back it up!

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Last Son of Wigan wrote:Where are your facts that Mossop will be a prop? its a call without anything to back it up!


The fact that he has spent significant game time in the reserves playing Prop, and also in my opinion he has the game more suited to Prop yet needs time to bed in, in the secondrow, I have mentioned it several times in this thread alone.

This is not a fact it is opinion, held by me.






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It looks to me like Jack Kerley has had his usual effect. Cause other people to get into arguments, while he slinks off.

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Cruncher wrote:It looks to me like Jack Kerley has had his usual effect. Cause other people to get into arguments, while he slinks off.


Precious as usual, eh?

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Jack Kerley wrote:Precious as usual, eh?

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Give over with the innocent act.

I’ve seen your method up close. You subtly provoke people by calling their opinions ‘tripe’ or whatever, at the same time ignoring any reasoned argument they may present to support their view. When they get annoyed, you respond by making fun of them, accusing them of name-calling, etc. Then a lackey will appear (at one time it would be Charlie Seeling, but I guess anyone will do). He’ll take over the argument and you disappear.

To make sure I don’t fall into a similar trap, and having made my point, I’m vacating this thread. See you in a few weeks, no doubt.

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Cruncher wrote:Give over with the innocent act.

I’ve seen your method up close. You subtly provoke people by calling their opinions ‘tripe’ or whatever, at the same time ignoring any reasoned argument they may present to support their view. When they get annoyed, you respond by making fun of them, accusing them of name-calling, etc. Then a lackey will appear (at one time it would be Charlie Seeling, but I guess anyone will do). He’ll take over the argument and you disappear.

To make sure I don’t fall into a similar trap, and having made my point, I’m vacating this thread. See you in a few weeks, no doubt.


I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but then again I never have had.

Who is Charlie Seeling.

Paranoia is an illness, for which you can get treatment.

Please use your time away from this thread effectively, by nipping down to the doctors for a check up.

You're welcome.

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